Sounds like you had quite an adventure. I am discovering that catch pens and 
funneling chutes are extremely helpful :-)

Jann

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> On Dec 4, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Michael Smith <mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So, I have 4 acres with many many separate pastures with gates and
> enclosures. I spent the morning first separating out the two ewes,
> pasture by pasture (I don't have a chute system yet). I wanted to pair
> these girls with Harpo an inexperienced but beautiful ram. They went
> into a pasture right next door to the rams, which were already
> fighting over them, and the girls were demonstrating the fact they
> appeared to be in heat.
> 
> Mind you, I am doing this all by myself this morning.
> 
> I have 5 intact rams, but they are actually not too difficult to
> separate out. There was a narrow 8' wide by about 30' long run between
> the ewe's pasture and the ram's pasture, and it had some fresh green
> grass in it that looked real good to eat.  I set up the gate to allow
> all the rams into the run, through the gate, one at a time, and simply
> not allowing Harpo in. It worked-- since he's timid-- and was the last
> one trying to follow in. I then lazily threw a chain around a post,
> thinking the gate would stay closed juuuuuust long enough to chase
> Harpo in through a small shaded gate under a shed roof, and he'd go in
> with the girls. I forgot the famous findings of Temple Grandin and how
> herd animals don't like to enter shaded, scary looking places.
> 
> Then things went wrong and I wish I had a camera, since it would have
> a good Darwin Award Video, with me starring as the Village Idiot.
> 
> Harpo is being scared of where I am trying to force him to go, so he's
> running everywhere through a pasture but not through the dark opening
> to the girl's pasture.  Meanwhile, the other rams start banging
> against the run gate, and two other rams bang the gate loose, they're
> no fools, and instantly run in through the shaded opening, in with the
> ewes. They start mounting away, as I have to secure the run gate to
> keep the rest of the rams from escaping... I am cussing my head off,
> realizing my selective breeding program has probably just been
> spoiled, if the girls are really fully in heat. It takes about a
> minute to really chain the gate well, and these guys are wasting no
> time.
> 
> I manage to grab a more tame one, Ziggy, almost instantly, and drag
> him back with the rest of the guys, cussing all the while. The other,
> Verne, is working the girls over and staying with them as they run all
> over the place, mounting them every time they will stay still in
> between chases by me. I could only imagine he knew he was on borrowed
> time :-)
> 
> I end up having to close everything, let the rams back out of the long
> run into their pasture, and re-set the gates to use the long run as a
> trap on my side instead, and run Verne and the girls into the long
> narrow run so I can separate them. It works fairly easily.
> 
> At this point, I am glad I have experience with a crook. Since he
> little place to run, I crook him handily and end up picking him up and
> just dumping him over the fence into the ram pasture again. Good thing
> he's the smaller of the rams!
> 
> Chase the girls out of the run, start the whole process over. Close
> off the gates to favor the ram side again. Rams still easily walk into
> the long run one by one, cut off Harpo again, but this time, I use
> BrainPower and bother to stop and chain everything up well.
> 
> I guess if they lamb in 150 days to the day, I'll know there's no idea
> who the father is, but if they take a week or more than the normal
> period, it's a good chance Harpo is the father. The other two are
> plenty good sires, but they are not Harpo.
> 
> The learning question here is: besides me being daft and
> underestimating Harpo's reluctance to go into a shaded, strange
> area--and not chaining things up safely, what sort of chute can one
> use for rams with large horn racks?  I imagine if you measured Marley,
> the largest rack-ed ram, he's have 35-40 inches or so.
> 
> -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies
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