Hey I need to know if anyone has border collies herding? We recently bought a pup and would like any info on how to handle them wirh a flock, She is still young and we are green. Thanks Lana
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Re: RE:wooliness (hlang) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 22:39:51 +0100 > From: Boudewijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Barbado/BB genetics > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: Rent-a-sheep > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Carol, > There is no relation with any other quality towards the > scrapiesensitivitygenotyping whatsoevver as far as proven till now. Remind > you this only a genotyping to find out which sheep can get scrapie easier > than others. This doesnt mean that these sheep with for example vrq-vrq > genotype have scrapie. On the arr-arr typed sheep all over the world have > not been found any proven scrapieresults YET!!! Although there are diverse > research methods which gave sometimes positive results on scrapie, and that > is why there are diverse discussions going on about the whole program. > My purebred Barbadosrams and Half breds with the kameroen in it have all > been genotyped arq-arq. Which is so called "the wildfactor" . From the arq > typed sheep have been found an occasionaly example of scrapie (from > registries all over Europ and not found in my flock). A few breeds are way > ahead with genotyping and have many arr-arr typed sheep already, as there is > the Texel, the Oxford Down, the Swifter, the Suffolk and Kerry Hill.. I may > leave a few out, this are only examples. > kind regards > Boudewijn Kooijman > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Sue Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:05:37 -0600 > Subject: [blackbelly] Livestock Weekly Article > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I read the article Carol posted. Interesting. We have been told by the local > lamb plant just over the border in Iowa, that they will dock us money due to > the hides not being worth anything. My husband is also a taxidermist. We > have sent Barbados hides to be tanned for the past 3 years.We have not had > ANY trouble getting them sold. One fella bought some and took them to a > local nursing home as lap blankets and they are WARM. We have never had a > skin tanned into leather - we've always had them tanned with the hair on. > The next time we have hides to send I may just have to try having them made > into leather and see for myself how they are. There has to be a market > somewhere for them but I think they were right in saying that it's just very > new. CArol, where could I get in touch with someof these people that have > applied for this USDA grant? Would be interested in conversing with them > also. Sue Miller > > _________________________________________________________________ > Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 > months @ $9.95/month now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "Rick Krach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:22:00 -0800 > Subject: [blackbelly] RE:wooliness > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sue, I kinda doubt that what you read concerning "more wool in colder > places" is accurate. Consider the native American wild sheep--you never see > any wool on them despite the high altitude, very cold climates they live in! > And secondly, right here in CA I see Barbado sheep with all different > degrees of wool. So, genetics probably plays a much bigger part than > climate. > > Rick Krach > 8725 Hubbard Rd > Auburn CA 95602 > (530) 889-1488 > > >From: "Sue Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:05:19 -0600 > Subject: [blackbelly] Hair on sheep > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Lorenzo, > >From all I have read on these sheep, the amount of wool or what > we refer to > as 'Knit' that they have depends largely on what climate they > are raised in. > Our Barbados sheep do put on a knit under the hair in the winter > months. On > some it is light and on others it seems somewhat thicker knit.... > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don�t worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. > Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:41:43 -0700 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Livestock Weekly Article > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sue, I think the best way would be to do a Google search on them or contact > the magazine and ask for their email addresses. Perhaps someone else on the > list knows the folks mentioned in the article personally? Hello? > > Carol > > At 06:05 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >CArol, where could I get in touch with someof these people that have > >applied for this USDA grant? Would be interested in conversing with them also. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "James Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Blackbelly List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:46:55 -0500 > Subject: [blackbelly] LAMB RECIPES > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_01D0_01C3B9F7.BCAF4690 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Does anyone have any lamb recipes that they would like to share with the > Barbados Blackbelly Sheep Association International cookbook? This = > cookbook > will be a major fund raiser for the association. They will include your > name with your recipe if you like. You can send them to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or you can share your recipes on this list = > and > it will allow others on this list to try your recipes. =20 > > =20 > > Thank you! > > =20 > > James Harper > > Virginia Regional Director > > Barbados Blackbelly Sheep Association International > > ------=_NextPart_000_01D0_01C3B9F7.BCAF4690 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <html> > > <head> > <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Dus-ascii"> > > <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)"> > > <style> > <!-- > /* Style Definitions */ > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal > {margin:0in; > margin-bottom:.0001pt; > font-size:12.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman";} > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink > {color:blue; > text-decoration:underline;} > a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed > {color:purple; > text-decoration:underline;} > span.EmailStyle17 > {font-family:Arial; > color:windowtext;} > @page Section1 > {size:8.5in 11.0in; > margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} > div.Section1 > {page:Section1;} > --> > </style> > > </head> > > <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> > > <div class=3DSection1> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial'>Does anyone have any lamb recipes that they would = > like to > share with the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep Association International = > cookbook? > This cookbook will be a major fund raiser for the association. = > They will > include your name with your recipe if you like. You can send them = > to <a > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</= > a> or you > can share your recipes on this list and it will allow others on this = > list to > try your recipes. </span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial'>Thank you!</span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial'>James Harper</span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial'>Virginia Regional Director</span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial'>Barbados</span></font><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Blackbelly Sheep = > Association > International</span></font></p> > > </div> > > </body> > > </html> > > ------=_NextPart_000_01D0_01C3B9F7.BCAF4690-- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:33:22 -0800 > Subject: [blackbelly] Re:12 Days of Christmas...UPDATE > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To ALL that have agreed to help I will send the address out this > weekend. Mailing of cards will begin on the 10th of December. I will > let you know the comments I get while YOU ALL help to sperad the > Christmas cheer. > > I am sure there will be many tears of joy. Thank you, again. > > Jeff > > > For the past four years my wife and I have done what we call the 12 > > Days of Christmas. This year we have chosen to surprise a friend > that > > lives several hundred miles from us, near Reno. It works like this. > > > > First, you need to choose the person you are going to surprise, > someone > > that needs to have the season made brighter due to circumstances in > > their life that are not so wonderful. > > > > In her case her husband is terminally ill. His medical expenses (Dr. > > visits and medication) are not fully covered by his insurance, so > money > > is very tight. They are homebound because he gets too weak when they > go > > out. > > > > So beginning the 10th of December we will start sending a daily card > or > > small gift to them. The whole idea here is to bring some Christmas > > cheer to them WITHOUT them knowing exactly where it is coming from. > > > > That is where you come in. I am planning on sending $5 in a card > daily > > as well as other surprises, like a fully cooked turkey from > > www.gobblegobble.com, ("It's a turkey like none other. I've done it > for > > three years straight. I'm telling you, it's the best turkey I've > ever > > had!" �Oprah). > > > > What I need your help with, is sending cards from different > locations > > in the country (or out of the country, on a specific date). If you > have > > a paypal account I will be happy to send you the $7 for a card and > the > > $5 to be included in the card. I know some people don't like to send > > cash and if it is more than $10, I don't send cash either. But I > have > > no problem with sending $5, in a card through the mail. > > > > The main thing is that I remain unknown to my friend. She will find > out > > we were behind this after Christmas when we make a trip to visit > them. > > > > If you would just like to send a card that would be fine, too. Just > a > > way to spread the Christmas cheer. She is a religious person so she > > would appreciate reglious cards, too. > > > > If you are willing to help let me know ASAP so I can begin lining up > > the help and sending out the money to your paypal account so you can > > send it on. > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > =============================================== > > This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list. > > To respond to this message, send e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to > http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > From: "Larry & Emily Meisegeier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:05:58 -0600 > Subject: [blackbelly] Breeding stock prospects for 2004 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I have bred approximately 380 ewes for 2004 lambing. These ewes should > produce a minimum of 570 lambs, 50% of which will be ewe lambs. This is more > ewe lambs than I will need so I am posting this now as some of you may be > interested in the matings I have made and the resulting ewe lambs. It's > never too early to plan for the future. > > I have made the following matings: > > 70 percentage East Friesian or percentage Lacaune ewes bred to Dorset ram. > Ram is a high indexing McNally Dorset from a dam line selected for milk > production. This ram is also a heterozygous Booroola gene carrier. Milk > production records for these ewes will be available. > > 30 percentage East Friesian or percentage Lacaune ewes bred to 7/8 Lacaune > ram. Ram's dam produced 833# of milk in 198 days during her second > lactation. Milk > production records for these ewes will be available. > > 35 percentage East Friesian ewes bred to fullblood East Friesian ram. Ram > from > "Super Elite Dutch" East Friesian genetics. Milk production records for > these ewes will be available. > > 40 fullblood Icelandic ewes bred to fullblood East Friesian ram. Ram from > "Super Elite Dutch" East Friesian genetics. Milk production records for > these ewes will be > available. > > 25 fullblood Icelandic ewes bred to fullblood Icelandic ram. Ram from > bloodlines selected for milk production. Milk production records for these > ewes will be available. > > 50 hair breed, i.e. Katahdin, St. Croix, Barbados/Romanov, Dorper/Hair breed > cross ewes bred to 7/8 Lacaune ram. Ram's dam produced 338# of milk in 212 > days during her second lactation. No milk records will be available for > these ewes. > > 40 hair breed ewes (same as above) bred to fullblood White Dorper ram. Ram > from Grant's Dorpers in Oregon. No milk records will be available for these > ewes. > > Fullblood St. Croix ewes bred to fullblood East Friesian ram. No milk > records for these > ewes. > > Percentage East Friesian ewes bred to fullblood St. Croix Ram. Milk records > will be > available. > > Balance of ewes are bred to Suffolk for terminal lambs. > > If anyone has an interest in these potential ewe lambs for 2004, you can > contact me at the following information, > > Larry Meisegeier > River Ridge Stock Farm > N6430 Hwy 40 > Bruce, WI 54819 > 715-868-2285 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.sheepmilk.biz > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > From: "hlang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] RE:wooliness > Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 07:01:01 -0800 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Barbado as Barbado Blackbelly sheep, carrying partly wool genetics in their > blood are parasite resistant. > > My true tru hair-type BB ( 90% polled), was not as hardy and parasite > resistant years ago. We have had to work for over ten years, very hard > selection, to get the hardiness and parasite resistance together. > Only a very small part of the flock made it thru that process. > > If anyone on the list has true hair type BB sheep, no kemp or wool > influence, please send me a picture by Email > > Best regards > Helmut > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Krach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:22 PM > Subject: [blackbelly] RE:wooliness > > > Sue, I kinda doubt that what you read concerning "more wool in colder > > places" is accurate. Consider the native American wild sheep--you never > see > > any wool on them despite the high altitude, very cold climates they live > in! > > And secondly, right here in CA I see Barbado sheep with all different > > degrees of wool. So, genetics probably plays a much bigger part than > > climate. > > > > Rick Krach > > 8725 Hubbard Rd > > Auburn CA 95602 > > (530) 889-1488 > > > > > > >From: "Sue Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:05:19 -0600 > > Subject: [blackbelly] Hair on sheep > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Lorenzo, > > >From all I have read on these sheep, the amount of wool or what > > we refer to > > as 'Knit' that they have depends largely on what climate they > > are raised in. > > Our Barbados sheep do put on a knit under the hair in the winter > > months. On > > some it is light and on others it seems somewhat thicker knit.... > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Don$BCU(B worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the > holidays. > > Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > =============================================== > > This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list. > > To respond to this message, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to > http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly > > --__--__-- > > =============================================== > This daily digest is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list. > To respond to this message, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to > http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly > > End of Blackbelly Digest =============================================== This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list. 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