Good morning Rick,

I am not sure where you are going with this.  I originally wrote:

Guy Brown in Connecticut is looking for 4-6 Barbado or Barbados Blackbelly
sheep to purchase in the areas of his travels the next several weeks.  He
will be traveling from Connecticut to Georgia and would like to purchase and
pick up in the areas of his travel.  He does NOT want horns.  He will take
Barbado rams and/or sheep if they do not have any horns and of course
Barbados Blackbelly since they are always polled.  His telephone number is
(203) 998-2708

My response:

Rick, I was trying to explain that Guy did not want animals with horns
whether they were Barbado or Barbados Blackbelly.  If we are having this
conversation because of my comment, " He will take Barbado rams and/or sheep
if they do not have any horns and of course Barbados Blackbelly since they
are always polled.", then I am sorry I did not word it correctly.

Rick wrote:

James, if "Barbado" rams have no horns, they're not to be called "Barbado." 
And if "Barbado" ewes do have horns, they're not to be called "Barbado" 
either.

My response:

Rick, there is a definite difference between horns and scurs.  Even when you
register an animal at least with the Blackbelly Barbados Sheep Association
International a breeder has to distinguish on the registration form whether
the animals is polled, horned or scurs.  If an animal carries a gene with
horns even though it has not horns it not called a Barbados Blackbelly.
Outward appearance is not what determines a true Barbado or Barbados
Blackbelly.  I agree with you that Barbado and Barbados Blackbelly ewes are
only polled. 



Rick wrote:

James, I personally think it's not right to differentiate between "scurs" 
and "horns."  Scurs are really horns with just a small, different shape and 
No true Barbados Blackbelly will have scurs.  Also, of course, no Barbados 
Blackbelly ewe can have any genes for horns in her system.  Granted, BB and 
Barbado ewes look the same on the outside, but it's only the outside and 
only someone who's not ethical will cause problems--trying to hide their 
insides.

My response:

Rick I agree with your comments except I feel it is important to
differentiate between scurs and horns.  Not having any Barbado sheep, I
would still feel in selling an animal if both animals were the same except
for the horns I would think a horned animal would sell for more than one
with scurs.  Again if both animals were the same except for the horns.  Also
for genetic record keeping I would want to know which animals were producing
good horns or scurs.

Rick I am sorry my original statement stirred you up but again I was just
trying to help a person find animals without horns and letting breeders know
that whether they had Barbado or Barbados Blackbelly sheep he did not want
to purchase animals with horns.

Chow!

James Harper
Virginia Regional Director
BBSAI  


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