I vote for North American BBs. The very same sheep can be found in Mexico also. I was down by Rocky Point a couple of years ago and ran across a whole mess of them.
If you always do what you have always done; You will always get what you have always got John Dahl Buckeye, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:14 AM Subject: RE: [blackbelly] Changing the Barbado name to American Blackbelly > addition to my previous e-mail........if the Barbado breed did not > origionate in the USA, we might want to think about a broader name, for > example.........North American Blackbelly......Just thinking out loud > :-).Sue > > > > Susan Smith > Sandoah Achers > www.sandoahachers.homestead.com > Barbado Sheep (hair breed) > Ponies > 4-H Projects > Public Sales > Donkey Rescue and Adoption > > > > > > >From: "Susan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: [blackbelly] Changing the Barbado name to American > >Blackbelly > >Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 10:57:56 +0000 > > > >Morning James, I guess if just me were to answer your question I would > >say > >this. When I decided I wanted a hair breed of sheep rather then a wool > >breed, I went on the web and did a search for hair sheep. There are a > >couple sites that distinguishes the BBB from the Barbado, but for me it > >must not have made an impact enough for me to figure out there was a > >difference. Honestly I thought that they were the same breed but one had > >horns and one didn't. There are several breeds of "woolies" out there > >that > >are exactly that way.....same sheep........personal preference horn or no > >horns. But.......they are the same exact breed. Some breeders of > >Barbado > >sheep even think they have BBB's and sell them as such. That was my > >case......she sold me registered BBB's believing herself she did have BBB > >sheep when infact she had Barbado. Barbado and Barbados Blackbelly are > >not > >the same breed, they came from the same origional stock, but are not the > >same sheep. So in my opinion to keep from confusing the next generation > >of > >buyers, a name change would not only help stop the confusion but I think > >be > >a better representation of the Barbado breed. Now as to what they would > >be > >called in Canada......I believe it goes back to that origional > >flock.....to > >my understanding they were imported to the USA.........then split here. > >If > >this is incorrect, then yes the "American" part would be incorrect. But > >if > >Canada bought their "Barbado" sheep from the USA, then the name American > >blackbelly would fit. I really feel that the message sent yesterday > >about > >a closed flock for 2 breeding seasons by several Barbado breeders may > >help > >come up with a standard. But I also believe that the origional breeds > >used > >to create the Barbado needs to be kept in mind. The reason, they are no > >longer BBB's, they are a new breed if you will and can't be judged nor > >compared nor held to the same standard with the origional Barbado > >Blackbelly sheep that still have a pure strain here in the USA. This is > >not possible because of all the mixing. But I would suggest that the > >possibility does exist to create a new standard for the Barbado with time > >and patience............The name is just to confusing James......I > >believe > >that the biggest percent of what I read on the listserver has to do with > >the difference between Barbados Blackbelly and Barbado sheep. Look how > >much we could accomplish for the two breeds if you didn't have to keep > >going over and over the difference in the two. We need to improve on > >both breeds, not argue which one is better of worse, etc. Time is wasted > >I > >think by constant repetition when it could be better used to educate > >people > >to 4-H and the hair breed of sheep..........how about the education of > >judges who haven't a clue about hair sheep. I see a name change > >benefiting > >both breeds. But then that is only me! Have a good one, Sue > > > > > > > >Susan Smith > >Sandoah Achers > >www.sandoahachers.homestead.com > >Barbado Sheep (hair breed) > >Ponies > >4-H Projects > >Public Sales > >Donkey Rescue and Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: "James Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>To: "Blackbelly List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: [blackbelly] Changing the Barbado name to American Blackbelly > >>Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:01:55 -0500 > >> > >>I am not debating but would like a clearer explanation of why there is a > >>need to change Barbado to American Blackbelly. Would the same animal in > >>Canada be called Canadian Blackbelly or would it be the American > >>Blackbelly > >>in Canada? Has anyone have any comments on what type of breed standards > >>the > >>Barbado should have? Thank you in advance for the clearer insight! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>James Harper > >> > >>Virginia Regional Director > >> > >>and BBSAI Newsletter Editor > >> > >>Blackbelly Barbadaos Sheep Association International > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar - FREE! > >http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ > > > >=============================================== > >This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list > >(http://www.awrittenword.com/listserv/index.html). > >To respond to this message, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to > >http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly > >To search the archives, go to > >http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get tax tips, tools and access to IRS forms - all in one place at MSN > Money! > http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/home.asp > > =============================================== > This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list > (http://www.awrittenword.com/listserv/index.html). > To respond to this message, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to > http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly > To search the archives, go to > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > =============================================== This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list (http://www.awrittenword.com/listserv/index.html). 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