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http://www.mycattle.com/news/assocnews/comments.cfm Regards, Eduardo -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 June 2004 08:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Blackbelly digest, Vol 1 #719 - 6 msgs Send Blackbelly mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Blackbelly digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Scrapie and eartags (Julie Riha) 2. Re: Scrapie and eartags ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 3. Re: Bottle Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 4. Re: Scrapie and eartags (Diane Wright) 5. Re: Missing Volumes (Carol J. Elkins) 6. Re: Scrapie and eartags (Carol J. Elkins) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 07:37:47 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time) From: "Julie Riha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [blackbelly] Scrapie and eartags Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have questions about scrapie and the eartags. I am all confused about the whole thing. I know what scrapie is, I have read a bit about it. What I am not sure of is the law on the eartags. Does everyone have to put eartags of any kind on their sheep, especially the ones they sell? Or is it just if you sell to someone that will be taking the sheep out of state. I live in Northern California, close to Redding. If someone else lives in California maybe they can tell me what the law is. We are mainly raising the sheep for our own use but will sell some of the lambs later on. The sheep we bought didn't have eartags of any kind on them. Thank you, Julie Riha [EMAIL PROTECTED] --__--__-- Message: 2 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 11:20:56 EDT Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie and eartags To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the same type of questions. I just have a few sheep (compared to many of you) - 22 at last count. Does this law apply to everyone who has sheep, even us 'hobbiest's"? Thanks! Onalee =========================================================== In a message dated 5/31/2004 10:59:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have questions about scrapie and the eartags. I am all confused about the whole thing. I know what scrapie is, I have read a bit about it. What I am not sure of is the law on the eartags. Does everyone have to put eartags of any kind on their sheep, especially the ones they sell? Or is it just if you sell to someone that will be taking the sheep out of state. I live in Northern California, close to Redding. If someone else lives in California maybe they can tell me what the law is. We are mainly raising the sheep for our own use but will sell some of the lambs later on. The sheep we bought didn't have eartags of any kind on them. Thank you, Julie Riha [EMAIL PROTECTED] =============================================== --__--__-- Message: 3 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 11:26:26 EDT Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Bottle Lamb To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mitzi - Wish you were closer!! Be a bit of a drive to get a bottle baby from FL to OK! I fed mine that often because that is what I see them do in nature - they don't eat much at a time, but eat often. I was afraid to space the feedings out as far as you did . .. of course, by 5 days old, I think I had it down to every 4-6 hours , but when they are first born (And this one was SMALL!!! She was so small she stayed in a cardboard box in the kitchen for the first week and had room to wander in there! LOL) I thought she needed frequent feedings. ;-) Onalee ============================================================= In a message dated 5/24/2004 12:57:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I fed mine every 2 hours morning and night for the first couple of days and then every 4 hours for a few days. It is exhausting and I would never do it >again. The next bottle baby is getting sold to someone who wants a pet. >Good luck!! >Onalee I have dibs on your next bottle baby! lol! I've gotten mine as young as 5 days or so but I've never fed more often than 3 times a day. I'm one of those rare characters that just loves to bottle feed :-) Mitzi Oklahoma vwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvw Onalee's Home Grown Seeds . . . . . . . . . . . . http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/onaleei/ Onalee Israel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 226 Benes RD . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Ebay Seller Id: onaleei Brooksville, FL 34604-6913 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world. --John Muir vwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvw --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 12:17:51 -0400 From: Diane Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Silver Lining Farm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie and eartags Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Me too!! I thought you only needed tags when selling adults across state lines? Under 1 yr didn't need tags? Diane --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 10:35:18 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Missing Volumes Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julie, I have no idea why you are not getting all of the Blackbelly digests, nor is there anything I can do. Even I miss an occasional digest or two. Often it is the individual Internet Service Provider (the server) that loses the email. Sometimes they are stopped by spam filters. Sometimes it is the listserv software (Mailman) that is at fault. Here are two suggestions: The list is normally quiet enough that you might want to change your subscription from digest mode to regular message mode or opt to receive both (which is what I do). In regular mode, you will receive each message as it is posted. To change your options, go to http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly. To read messages that you believe you may have missed, go to http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Carol Elkins List Owner At 11:00 AM 5/30/2004 -0700, you wrote: >I want to state that I am not receiving all volumes. I got 708, 711, 715 and >716. So I am getting just part of them. Don't know why that is. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 11:27:27 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie and eartags Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julie and Onalee, Please read http://www.animalagriculture.org/scrapie/NIAA%20Producer%20Kit.pdf . That document states that "The following animals will need ID (ear tags or tattoos): * All breeding sheep regardless of age. * All sheep 18 months and older" Here is California State Veterinarian contact info: Dr. Paul O. Ugstad, Area Veterinarian-In-Charge Dr. Phillip S. LaRussa, Dr. Granville A. Richey II, Assistant Area Veterianarians-In-Charge 9580 Micron Ave., Suite E Sacramento, California 95827 phone: (916) 857-6170 fax: (916) 857-6196 I recommend you contact them and get their official word. There is still a lot of confusion, even at the government level, about this program. Get the name of the person you spoke to and, preferably, have them email you their official position for your records. One of the reasons for such confusion is the ambiguity of the terminology that the government uses. They had "black-face commercial wool sheep" in mind when they drew up these rules (because those are the sheep most likely to carry scrapie). Therefore, the terms "slaughter animals" and "animals for grazing" (groups of sheep possibly exempt from ID requirements) mean something very different than what we Blackbelly breeders think the terms mean. According to my State scrapie inspector, Blackbellies are not slaughter animals even if I'm hauling them down to the butcher. The gov thinks of slaughter animals as sheep in feed lots fattening up prior to commercial slaughter. Those Blackbellies grazing out in my pasture are not "animals for grazing" because the gov defines that term as commercial sheep grazing BLM and other huge acreages during the summer. So it may very well be that our Blackbellies are not exempt. Because I participate in the more stringent voluntary scrapie certification program, I have to tag ALL of my sheep with special tamper-proof tags. However, for the rest of you who need only comply with the scrapie eradication program, here is what I personally would do if I were you: 1. I would order the FREE applicator and as many FREE tags as you are allowed (200 should do you just fine). 2. I would order a supply of small brass tags and applicator that Premier sells. 3. The day after a lamb is born, I would assign that lamb a number, apply a small brass tag, and create a record of that lamb's birth. 4. When that lamb leaves my farm, regardless of where or why or when, I would apply a scrapie tag. I would ensure that the number I assigned at birth is the same number on the brass tag AND the scrapie tag so that my record-keeping stays straight. 5. I would keep that lamb's record for 5 years. 6. As for the breeding stock that stays on my farm, I would apply the small brass tag and create a record. I would NOT apply the scrapie tag because of the likelihood that it will rip out. But I would have that tag on hand so that if I ever needed to quickly scrapie tag the animal, I would be prepared. As soon as the government completes its National Animal Identification Program, all of this will be moot because your government will force you to tag all of your animals whether you want to or not. Carol At 07:37 AM 5/31/2004 -0700, you wrote: >I have questions about scrapie and the eartags. I am all confused about the >whole thing. I know what scrapie is, I have read a bit about it. What I am >not sure of is the law on the eartags. Does everyone have to put eartags of >any kind on their sheep, especially the ones they sell? Or is it just if you >sell to someone that will be taking the sheep out of state. I live in >Northern California, close to Redding. If someone else lives in California >maybe they can tell me what the law is. We are mainly raising the sheep for >our own use but will sell some of the lambs later on. The sheep we bought >didn't have eartags of any kind on them. Carol Elkins Critterhaven Estate Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep --__--__-- =============================================== This daily digest is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list. To respond to this message, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly End of Blackbelly Digest =============================================== This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list (http://www.awrittenword.com/listserv/index.html). 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