Hi Everybody, I was so surprised to hear about the scam because we received that same phone call. Mike and I didn't pay much attention to it because we NEVER buy over the phone like that. If we want to buy something over the phone, we call them. FYI, the only sheep list we are on is the Barbado Blackbelly list.
Becky Lannon ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: Blackbelly digest, Vol 1 #758 - 9 msgs > Send Blackbelly mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Blackbelly digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Desperate Scam Artists! (Mary Swindell) > 2. Dewormer Hoax (Mark Fleming) > 3. Re: Desperate Scam Artists! (Carol J. Elkins) > 4. lambing pens (Susan Smith) > 5. (no subject) (James Harper) > 6. RE: lambing pens (James Harper) > 7. hoax email messages (Carol J. Elkins) > 8. Re: lambing pens (Carol J. Elkins) > 9. Re: lambing pens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:06:02 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: Mary Swindell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [blackbelly] Desperate Scam Artists! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > James, Susan, and Everybody, > > It's pretty bad when the scam artists start hitting on us poor sheep > producers. They must be pretty hard up for business -- ha ha! > > Mary > > > At 12:01 PM 7/20/2004 -0600, you wrote: > > >Today's Topics: > > > > 1. warning to all sheep producers!!!- (James Harper) > > 2. RE: warning to all sheep producers!!!- (Susan Smith) > > Mary Swindell > Bellwether Farm > 815 Bell Hill Road > Cobden, IL 62920 > (618) 893-4568 (home) > (618) 453-1697 (work) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Mark Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Breeders ListServ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:46:50 -0500 > Subject: [blackbelly] Dewormer Hoax > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > A Joe Connors, Flagship Farms, from Oklahoma City, 1-800-506-5172, also > contacted me. He offered the same deal as indicated on the list. It > sounded great, especially that you could put this in water and it was safe > for all animals to drink. I inquired as our ducks, geese, dogs, cats, and > llamas, along with the sheep drink out of our tanks. He stated this organic > wormer was better than Cydectin and Dectomax wormers. I asked him to send > me literature to consider the offer and he stated he did not do business > that way. I told him I would not buy anything over the phone, sight unseen. > He even offered to send it COD with UPS. As with the others who posted, I > am sure it is a scam! > > Mark Fleming > BBSAI Secretary/Treasurer > Lamar, Missouri > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:48:43 -0600 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Desperate Scam Artists! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > That company called me last year. The guy started out by asking me what > wormer I use. I told him I didn't use a wormer. We immediately got into a > battle because he told me that I HAD to use a wormer if I raised sheep. It > went from bad to worse from there. > > Carol > > At 02:06 PM 7/20/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >It's pretty bad when the scam artists start hitting on us poor sheep > >producers. They must be pretty hard up for business -- ha ha! > > Carol Elkins > Critterhaven Estate > Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep > (no shear, no dock, no fuss) > Pueblo, Colorado > http://www.critterhaven.biz > T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the > Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "Susan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:08:38 +0000 > Subject: [blackbelly] lambing pens > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi All, Do any of you, or all of you have lambing pens (jugs) in your > barns/sheds? If so, do you have one per ewe, or? What size do you have for > BB? Everything happened this year so fast for me, I would like to be better > prepared this next lambing season. Most of you have been there done that so > would you please share your lambing set up with me. Thanks, Sue Smith > > > > Susan Smith > Sandoah Achers > www.sandoahachers.homestead.com > Barbado Sheep (hair breed) > Ponies > 4-H Projects > Public Sales > Donkey Rescue and Adoption > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - FREE > download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "James Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Blackbelly List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:42:57 -0400 > Subject: [blackbelly] (no subject) > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This was sent to me from a friend of mine who said that this is really true. > > Dolly > > > > > > Subject: Telephone Warning > 90# on the telephone > PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW > I received a telephone call last evening from an individual > identifying himself as an AT&T Service technician who was conducting a test > on telephone > > lines. He stated that to complete the test I should touch > nine(9), zero(0), the pound sign (#), and then hang up. > > Luckily, I was suspicious and refused. > Upon contacting the telephone company, I was informed that by > pushing 90#, you give the requesting individual full access to your > telephone line, > > which enables them to place long distance calls billed to your > home phone number. > I was further informed that this scam has been originating > from many local jails/prisons. I have also verified this information with > UCB Telecom,Pacific > > Bell, MCI, Bell Atlantic and GTE. Please beware. > DO NOT press 90# for ANYONE. > The GTE Security Department requested that I share this > information with EVERYONE I KNOW. > PLEASE pass this on to everyone YOU know. > If you have mailing lists and/or newsletters from > organizations you are connected with, I encourage you to pass on this > information to them. > > After checking with Verizon they said it was true, so do not > dial (9),zero(0), the pound sign # and hang up for anyone. > > PLEASE PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW > > > > James E. Harper > Seldon Acres > P.O. Box 42 > Prince George, Virginia 23875 > (804) 732-2626 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: "James Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [blackbelly] lambing pens > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:01:10 -0400 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hello Sue, > > My operation is VERY LOW maintenance. I do no use lambing pens except when > I choose to bottle feed. Normally they are on their own. I have great > success rate in lambing. Normally the lambs are up and running with the > herd same day born. Some of the other ewes will come up and sniff the new > born lambs but that is about it. I usually have a ram running with the herd > and he acts like the new born lambs are not even there. > > Exception and HIGH maintenance: I do have pens 5 X 10 I use when I want to > bottle feed kids/lambs solely to get them friendly. The Fairs like friendly > animals so I started bottle feeding. I have kept 3 kids in this size pen > which is portable. I move it to a different location every other day to > keep them on fresh ground/grass even though they do not eat the grass during > their first weeks of life. When they start eating the grass I move the pen > every day. > > I hope this helps! > > James Harper > Virginia Regional Director > BBSAI > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Smith > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 11:09 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [blackbelly] lambing pens > > Hi All, Do any of you, or all of you have lambing pens (jugs) in your > barns/sheds? If so, do you have one per ewe, or? What size do you have for > > BB? Everything happened this year so fast for me, I would like to be better > > prepared this next lambing season. Most of you have been there done that so > > would you please share your lambing set up with me. Thanks, Sue Smith > > > > Susan Smith > Sandoah Achers > www.sandoahachers.homestead.com > Barbado Sheep (hair breed) > Ponies > 4-H Projects > Public Sales > Donkey Rescue and Adoption > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - FREE > download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ > > =============================================== > This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list > (http://www.awrittenword.com/listserv/index.html). > To respond to this message, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to > http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly > To search the archives, go to > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:24:06 -0600 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [blackbelly] hoax email messages > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Any time a message suggests that you "pass it on to everyone you know" you > should immediately smell a hoax. The next thing you should do is check it > out at http://www.snopes.com/snopes.asp a site listing thousands of hoax > email messages and urban legends. In this case, it is very similar to > several other 90# hoaxes listed on the site. In general, unless you are > willing to provide the phone number and name of the person who "assures me > it is true" or a link to an authoritative Web site, I would request that > emails such as this not be posted to the Blackbelly listserv. > > Carol > > At 11:42 AM 7/21/2004 -0400, you wrote: > >This was sent to me from a friend of mine who said that this is really true. > > > >Dolly > > > >Subject: Telephone Warning > > 90# on the telephone > > PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:32:33 -0600 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] lambing pens > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi Sue, > > I put up two very simple jugs on the back wall of my barn using some spare > chainlink fence. Each is about 12 x 3, only because that is the length of > the wall. A smaller jug would be fine. Rarely are both in use at the same > time because my ewes give birth a couple days apart, usually. > > I jug my ewe/lambs purely for MY convenience, not for any particular need > on their part. I want to be able to catch that new lamb on day 2 to eartag > him. And it also allows me to monitor the ewe for any post-lambing > complications (ensuring that the placenta has expelled, primarily) and that > she is nursing well. And, selfishly, I like having a close-up look at those > adorable babies. > > The jugs are even handier when I need to squeeze the flock to work on them. > All the sheep know to run into that back jug when I herd them into the > barn. I close the gate behind them and they are nicely confined as I pull > each one out individually to trim hooves or separate for breeding. > > Carol > > At 03:08 PM 7/21/2004 +0000, you wrote: > >Hi All, Do any of you, or all of you have lambing pens (jugs) in your > >barns/sheds? If so, do you have one per ewe, or? What size do you have > >for BB? Everything happened this year so fast for me, I would like to be > >better prepared this next lambing season. Most of you have been there > >done that so would you please share your lambing set up with > >me. Thanks, Sue Smith > > Carol Elkins > Critterhaven Estate > Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep > (no shear, no dock, no fuss) > Pueblo, Colorado > http://www.critterhaven.biz > T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the > Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:42:33 EDT > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] lambing pens > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi, > I have a pretty small operation but find that trying to separate a ewe for > lambing causes them quite a bit of stress. They like to find their own place > where they feel safe - sometimes that is in our holding pen, other times it's > out in the middle of the pasture. I agree that it would be easier to have them > in an enclosed area to monitor passing afterbirth, etc., but most of my ewes > would be terribly stressed out if I shut them up away from the rest of the herd > for any length of time. (it's ok if they CHOOSE to stay away from the herd > with their baby, but they don't want me to make that decision for them!). I > haven't had any problem with the other sheep bothering them while giving birth or > afterwards; you just have to stay and watch to make sure the baby is up and > eating and she passes everything in a timely manner. By the next feeding, they > usually come in with the herd to eat in our holding pen, so if we do need to > catch them up for anything, we can do it then. > > I do have a couple of mobile pens (3X4) I use for bottle babies, as described > by James. I move it every time they soil in the spot they are in or when I > feed them, whichever I notice or do first. > > Onalee > > > In a message dated 7/21/2004 12:32:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Hi All, Do any of you, or all of you have lambing pens (jugs) in your > >barns/sheds? If so, do you have one per ewe, or? What size do you have > >for BB? Everything happened this year so fast for me, I would like to be > >better prepared this next lambing season. Most of you have been there > >done that so would you please share your lambing set up with > >me. Thanks, Sue Smith > > > --__--__-- > > =============================================== > This daily digest is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list. > To respond to this message, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly > > End of Blackbelly Digest > =============================================== This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list (http://www.awrittenword.com/listserv/index.html). To respond to this message, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly To search the archives, go to http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
