Re: to feed back on bottle lamb introduced to flock:
Thanks everybody,
I have been taking Yasha out each day and letting him run in the pen ...while I am there...so the others don't get to rough with him.....The ewes snife him, turn away and then push him away with their head..(mildly butting him)....like they know he is not one of them by the way he smells. Curiously the one that seems to be the most interested in him is our first wool ewe that was bottle fed herself....I wonder if she remembers the smell of the replacer milk on him.... Each day that we go into the pen they are less curious about him and I think at some point he will be accepted....hopefully.....
I don't mind taking the time to watch him. He goes everywhere with me to feed the other animals and comes in with me when I go inside of the house and stays in his crate...today he walked up to the mail with Alan and I...which is 1/8 of a mile up and the same back . He was running along side and in between our legs, jumping and leaping in the air all the way......hehehe....he is so cute. I tell you though he knows who give him the bottle.....smile...cause when Alan leaves to go somewhere else he may start to follow but then comes barreling back to me..... I agree I think it will be harder on us to let him stay outside when the time comes......but I know it has to be done. We had to do the same with the first bottle baby but since she was the first, the pen was not full of hostile creatures like it is now so adjustments have to be made.......Thanks again for the imput Onalee and Sue. smile.
Annette Hake Menookhaw Mountain Ravenden, Ar.
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1. Bottle lamb (Sue Miller) 2. Re: Bottle lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 3. Fwd: help (Carol J. Elkins) 4. Re: Fwd: help (Mitzi) 5. RE:Fwd: help ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 6. Herman's message asking for help (Carol J. Elkins) 7. Re: Herman's message asking for help (hlang) 8. Re: Herman's message asking for help ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Message: 1 From: "Sue Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:47:21 -0600 Subject: [blackbelly] Bottle lamb Reply-To: [email protected]
<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>Bottle lambs can be introduced back into the flock. We had one this fall. She was in with the flock for 2 weeks before we knew we had to do something or lose her. We were given a chance to catch her and brought her into the house. We placed her in a large dog kennel. We immediately fed her mixing the milk replacer with Pedialite ( something that I read from the list serve ) and with in 24 hours, she had perked right up. We had her in the house, out in the house yard, and with us for about 4 weeks.I placed a collar on her and would place her outside on a dog chain connected to the clothes line. She could see the sheep in our small pen and would lay down over by them. I would unhook her if I were outside so she could run and follow me around the yard. Gradually we began to put her in with the rest of the flock for short amounts
of time and gradually lengthened the amount of time she spent with them. Eventually we left her overnight and she has been with the flock since then. When we feed the others, she has to come out of the pen in the barn and eat out of " her " bowl and she eats hay off the bale. When she is ready to rejoin them, she squeezes through the boards of the pen and goes back in by herself. She will still frollow us around the yard if she chooses to. The flock eventually accepted her and she is doing well. So yes I feel that bottle lambs can be brought back to be part of the flock with time. Just my experience. I think it was harder for me to leave her in with the flock than is was for her to adjust to being with them!!!!!! Sue Miller</DIV></div></html>
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Message: 2 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 21:16:38 EST Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Bottle lamb To: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected]
I agree, bottle babies can definately be brought back into the herd. We had
one that we got from a neighbor, the mother abandoned it at birth and the
owners didn't want all the work that went into raising it. It was never really
with the herd before it became a bottle baby; in fact, she thought she was a dog
and preferred staying and playing with the dogs in the yard to the sheep. To
introduce her to the herd, we set up a temporary pen within the pasture for
her, the other sheep could come up and visit and the baby could get used to being
out in the pasture. We left her in there during the days for a few days, then
opened that pen so that only she could get in and out of it (since she was
the only lamb at the time) and left free-choice feed in there for her. We would
leave her out with the sheep during the day and bring her back to her small
pen at night until we were sure she had adjusted to being a 'sheep'. When we
thought she was 1) large enough that a fox wouldn't be able to catch her and 2)
had adjusted to staying with the sheep and they had accepted her as a sheep -
then we started leaving her with them 100% of the time. She did fine and is
now part of the herd.
Onalee
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Message: 3 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 22:04:32 -0700 To: [email protected] From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [blackbelly] Fwd: help Reply-To: [email protected]
This man sent his message to the wrong address, so I'm forwarding it to the list. Hopefully some of you are willing to help him.
Carol Elkins List Owner _______________________________________-
>Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:16:03 -0600 (Central Standard Time) >From: "herman foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: help
Some of my black belly does are having babies , and do not have enough milk to feed the babies,what can I do ?
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Message: 4 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 23:29:01 -0600 From: Mitzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Fwd: help To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected]
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 22:04:32 -0700, Carol J. Elkins wrote:
>Some of my black belly does are having babies , and do not have enough milk
>to feed the babies,what can I do ?
I'm not the pro you want, I'm sure. But how do you know the ewes don't have enough milk? Not much of anything but colostrum comes out the 1st few
days. How old are the babies? And how are they acting that makes you think they're not getting enough?
Mitzi Potter
Oklahoma
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Message: 5 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: RE:[blackbelly] Fwd: help Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:22:04 -0800 Reply-To: [email protected]
Tell him to feed warm molasses water. About half cup warm molasses to bucket warm water, do it for 2 to 3 days. Ol fashioned remedy but still works!
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This man sent his message to the wrong address, so I'm forwarding it to the list. Hopefully some of you are willing to help him.
Carol Elkins List Owner ____________________-
>Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:16:03 -0600 (Central Standard Time) >From: "herman foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: help
Some of my black belly does are having babies , and do not have enough milk to feed the babies,what can I do ?
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Message: 6 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 08:47:27 -0700 To: [email protected] From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [blackbelly] Herman's message asking for help Reply-To: [email protected]
Herman,
Read "Raising a Bummer Lamb on a Bottle" at http://www.critterhaven.biz/bummerlamb.htm.
Also search the Blackbelly listserv archives (http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/) and learn everything you need to know about supplementing lambs.
My opinion (sorry if it sounds harsh) is that ewes who don't have enough milk to feed their lambs should be butchered. Blackbelly sheep are hardy and good mothers. To permit inferior animals to breed and pass those inferior genetics to their lambs just weakens the breed in general.
Carol
At 08:16 PM 12/26/2004 -0600, you wrote: Some of my black belly does are having babies , and do not have enough milk to feed the babies,what can I do ? Carol Elkins Critterhaven Estate Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep
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Message: 7 From: "hlang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Herman's message asking for help Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 08:09:43 -0800 Reply-To: [email protected]
In comparrison to other breeds, Blackbelly have milk problems. They need good feed and better quality as their stomach is not able to get nutrition out of low protein hay..Feed oats and see if milkproduction is better
regards Helmut ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:47 AM Subject: [blackbelly] Herman's message asking for help
> Herman,
>
> Read "Raising a Bummer Lamb on a Bottle" at
> http://www.critterhaven.biz/bummerlamb.htm.
>
> Also search the Blackbelly listserv archives
> (http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/) and learn
> everything you need to know about supplementing lambs.
>
> My opinion (sorry if it sounds harsh) is that ewes who don't have enough
> milk to feed their lambs should be butchered. Blackbelly sheep are hardy
> and good mothers. To permit inferior animals to breed and pass those
> inferior genetics to their lambs just weakens the breed in general.
>
> Carol
>
> At 08:16 PM 12/26/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> Some of my black belly does are having babies , and do not have enough
> milk to feed the babies,what can I do ?
> Carol Elkins
> Critterhaven Estate
> Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
> (no shear, no dock, no fuss)
> Pueblo, Colorado
> http://www.critterhaven.biz
> T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the
> Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep
>
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Message: 8 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:17:44 EST Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Herman's message asking for help To: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected]
In my experience, Black Bellies don't get huge udders like some other sheep,
but they still seem to have enough for the babies. Increasing feed/protien
for the mothers will help them produce more milk, if, in fact, they are not
producing enough. But if you are used to seeing a large udder like on some other
breeds and that's why you think they don't have enough milk - again - from
*my* experience - the black bellies don't get that.
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