In a message dated 3/6/2005 12:08:34 AM Central  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Cecil, I have a guard donkey,  also, and she has never been anywhere near the 
birthing ewes. In fact, she's  never near the sheep in general unless there's 
a threat. Might your area  just have been too small so they were forced to be 
close together?   It's too bad you didn't get rid of just one donkey.
Rick  


I was having some trouble with this ewe since she had diarrhea, and I was  
not aware she was that close to having lambs.  I usually put my birth ready  
ewes in the birthing pens.  However only a week ago, I had 3 sets of twins  
born 
in one night in the large pen that the ewes and donkeys stay in at  night.  
This was the same area that I found the stomped lambs.  I have  observed both 
donkeys standing over a ewe that was just cleaning up a newborn  and assumed 
that they were protecting her.  The newborn was really making a  lot of noise 
and 
it was nightime.  However I have observed either one or  both donkeys running 
the lambs and ewes.  I have also had 3 instances in  the last 6 months of 
dogs chasing the entire flock while the donkeys stood  by... 
 
I understand now that there is a lot of training that goes into having one  
for a gaurd donkey.   I did not have the time or resources for  that.  After 
this experience with donkeys, I will not have another  one.   I bought the 
donkey at a local sale and the "auctioneer"  said she had been with sheep and 
goats.  A month later she had a ginny  foal.  She was never really gentle, very 
skittish and would really go nuts  whenever an engine was running.  I did not 
try 
to make a pet out of her,  but I fed her with the sheep and tried to "make 
friends".  She snorted  whenever anything new was in the area, and I thought 
she 
was "standing  gaurd".  I got the donkey for protection due to the dogs 
running in this  area.  I was trying not to have to shoot the dogs chasing the 
sheep, but  let them have a "natural" fate when chasing sheep..   2 weeks ago I 
 
had 6 dogs come thru here chasing the flock.  None of the dogs were less  than 
100#!!!  The donkeys were watching.....   My horses came  toward this problem 
as they were in another pasture...
 
As I may have said before, I never had a dog or coyote problem when my  
horses were with the sheep.  My 20 year old gelding is a  registered Morgan 
that is 
16 hands tall and weighs about 1600 lbs.  He  has had 2 day old lambs running 
at his feet and never been a  problem.  My  31 year old Morgan mare is his 
mother....    They are truly gentle horses.  I trust them.  Dogs and coyotes 
seem to  give them a wide berth.  Maybe it is due to their size.  
 
Just my experience, but after finding 2 lambs broken up and definite hoof  
prints in the carcass, they are gone from here.  
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