Bugs item #551451, was opened at 2002-05-02 08:18
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Category: Behaviour
Group: 0.65.x
>Status: Open
>Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 1
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry (shaleh)
Summary: Incorrect Java Window Handling

Initial Comment:
All the Java swing applications(j2sdk1.4) are not
displayed correctly.  On limewire the window opens up
to twice your desktop resolution, but only the top left
1/8 of the window actually displays part of the
application.   

When attempting to resize some Java applications, they
instantly disappear (still running, but unviewable).

I believe these to be Blackbox bugs because they do not
occur in other window managers.

blackbox --version gives Blackbox 0.65.0alpha2

Thanks,
-- Uriah Liggett

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>Comment By: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry (shaleh)
Date: 2003-03-19 22:58

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I am sorry I did not update this bug before.   
   
Java 1.3 has issues with several window managers, the various blackbox   
codebases being among them.  Upgrading to 1.4 appears to solve this for   
the people i have spoken with.   
   
We have done all we can with blackbox and Java 1.3.  This bug is quite hard   
to track down and several weeks of time have been spent on it.  Sun has  
basically said that if you are not running GNOME (which means sawfish or I  
presume metacity now) they are not interested in you.  They even refuse to  
support proper functioning with twm.  
  
I have no idea why running kdeinit would have any bearing on the matter.   
Perhaps they have code to detect kde and run alternative code if this is the  
case.  
  
If more info and debugging can be brought to this problem we are willing to 
examine it further.  However supporting proprietary tech when the authors 
are unwilling to give any support in return is not a very high priority.  We 
understand that some people are required to use Java to earn a paycheck 
and do sympathize so I am re-opening the bug but leaving it at priority 1. 
 

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Comment By: Neil Short (neshort)
Date: 2003-03-19 22:14

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I have this problem.
I run blackbox 0.65.0 on FreeBSD (4.8 RC 0).
I have two Java VMs on the system and neither treats window
sizes properly.

The native FreeBSD Java 1.3.1 VM shrinks the window size
down to a length and width of 0,0. If I'm not watching the
screen when it displays, I might miss it and not be able to
stretch it out to use the application.

On the Linux VM, the applications sometimes dilplay larger
than the screen area.

Here's the kicker: The same Java applications display
properly in all other tested window managers, including:
KDE, TWM and WM2.

The problem also manifests itself, incidentally, in Fluxbox.
I suspect if it gets fixed in one it will be fixed in the other.

Anyway, this was once a problem with KDE as well. See the link:
http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4379472.html

In the document above, the problem was assumed to be a
problem unique with KDE and that the KDE developers had
resolved the issue. Unfortunately, my favorite window
manager, Blackbox, also has the problem.

I have noticed that if I run the KDE application kdeinit
before running blackbox, then during that session, the java
applications window sizes will be properly display.

>From some of the online discussions I have seen, the problem
is that java cannot detect the correct window borders on
some window managers.

I hope you guys can find a fix for this. I can't bare to use
those other window managers.

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Comment By: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry (shaleh)
Date: 2002-06-22 02:14

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updated cvs a few minutes ago.  The problem of windows
loading partially off screen has been fixed.

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2002-06-10 00:40

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JBuilder all versions j2sdk1.3
When window with context help (this with methods that class 
have, it appears when you place dot after object name ie. 
'this.') appears, jbuilder iconized.

The same bug I see under KDE, but 'qlvm' don't have it, so this 
is not java bug I think.

I download blackbox  0.65.0alpha8, but
'blackbox -version' gives
Blackbox  1997 - 2000 Brad Hughes
0.65.0alpha7 : (c) 2001 - 2002 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

Remi Samosiuk

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Comment By: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry (shaleh)
Date: 2002-06-08 00:01

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would someone mind testing this with current (0.65.0alpha8
or better) blackbox?  We have cleaned up the window
configuring which may have fixed this as a result.

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2002-05-23 08:20

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I'm a trying this with Alpha 6 and jdk 1.4, MDK 8.2,
Limewire and x86.

I had similar problem to earlier poster. Now when I start up
Limewire it makes X use 90%+ of resources. Everything slows
down completely and it when I kill Limewire, it goes back to
normal.

Previously it managed to crash X.

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Comment By: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry (shaleh)
Date: 2002-05-02 09:04

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Sorry but I am not going to install a non-free language and system on my machine.  If 
you have the time or 
if someone else does I will accept patches.


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