OK, I lied before when I said "that's all I'm going to say". :) Perhaps in the interests of mitigating the resurgent Features Holy War, all parties involved would do well to revisit previous crusades. Maybe we'd learn something, and it would save some time and /var/spool space. The mailing list archive is here: http://www.mail-archive.com/blackbox%40trolltech.com/ and here are some threads that followed much the same tack: * Open letter re Gnome * my feature suggestion * Why do you use blackbox? (Was Desktop names/ Auto unshade) I'm not trying to dredge up old battles. All I hope is that revisiting similar discussions might shed a little light on the current one. The part that makes me giggle is, AFAIK, we've yet to hear from a single BB developer on the topic[1]. Whatever the reasons, I think that's very telling. OK, _now_ I'm done. -- Bill Beal, crossing his fingers behind his back [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bildo.net/ [1] John Kennis doesn't count, and here's the proof: ;) http://www.mail-archive.com/blackbox%40trolltech.com/msg02551.html