Dear All,
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On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 01:59:11PM -0500, Jason vanRijn Kasper wrote:
> On 2001.11.09 12:44 Scott Moynes wrote:
> >
> > Blackbox used to include keyboard binding support, but it was pretty
> > poor and would be more maintainable in a separate app. So, in short,
> > fluxbox is the devolution of blackbox.
At best, this is poor logic. First, you appear to assume that the
removal of key binding functions from a window manager is
`development.' This is not necessarily so. Second, you also appear to
assume that Fluxbox has poor key binding functionality. This is not
the case. Fluxbox reads my existing bbkeys-0.8.3 ~/.bbkeysrc file and
behaves in the same way.
> This I completely agree with. Not to mention the fact that bbkeys is
> still in active development and enhancements. And why it was chosen to
> swallow an immediately out-of-date bbkeys into fluxbox rather than
> allowing it to remain a standalone app is beyond me. You've just
> complicated things rather than simplified them--blackbox and fluxbox could
> very easily have co-existed with bbkeys, and both would benefit from the
> separation of function. If keybindings had been left to bbkeys, fluxbox
> would have been a consideration for me. As it stands now, unless the
> fluxbox author intends to keep up with the still-{evolving,improving}
> bbkeys, or he removes keybindings from fluxbox, I have no interest in
> playing with it.
>
>
> Jason Kasper (vanRijn)
> bash$ :(){ :|:&};:
> Numbers 6:24-26
I prefer to have key bindings fully integrated within the window
manager itself. I grew accustomed to this with UWM, VTWM and CTWM. All
of these window managers, with possible exception of UWM, had enough
functionality for my purposes. The warp bindings were especially
useful. One major advantage of keeping the key binding code integrated
is the following:
257 rbm49 2 0 2920K 1696K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% fluxbox
This compares favourably with:
5610 rbm49 2 0 2784K 1824K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% blackbox
5624 rbm49 2 0 2420K 1452K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bbkeys
On large multi-user systems this remains as much of an issue as it ever
was.
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Many regards,
Richard Mahoney
PS.
For those interested:
7235 rbm49 2 0 2968K 2060K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% vtwm
7313 rbm49 2 0 2956K 2096K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ctwm
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