On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 08:01:56AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> On 02-Jan-2002 Alexander Volovics wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I have been using bb-0.61 on my laptop now for some time.
> > I have tried it with and without the 'blackbox-taskbar-patches'
> > of Ignacio Thayer.
> > 
> > Personally I much prefer being able to immediately see which apps/windows
> > I have iconized on the toolbar and to open them again from the toolbar
> > then to have to pop up the "workspaces menu" every time just to see
> > what I have iconized and to open them from there.
> > 
> 
> this has been requested twice on the blackbox feature request page
> (sf.net/projects/blackboxwm).  Read my comments there please.
> 
> To summarize Blackbox is NOT about icons.  It supports them as minimally as
> possible because it has to do so.  Another options is for there to be an icon
> pager similar to bbpager.  It is possible now and will be even easier when the
> bb lib and NET WM spec is supported.

I'm not sure if you're aware or not but it seems the iconbar that
people are requesting does not actually display "icons", but rather
"iconified windows". Its basically adding buttons to the toolbar as
windows are iconified, and removing them as they're uniconified, and
then changing the button event handling code in the toolbar.

I'm slightly for the iconbar actually in this form, it adds no clutter
since its in a part of teh screen that already has something displayed
in it, but that i really don't use (the toolbar's "curret window"
section). And it only slightly slows down the iconify/uniconify process.
Hardly bogging down the window manager.

Not really fighting to get this into the blackbox code tree, just trying
to make sure you know what it is being requested.

> Yet another option is to leave the icon menu pinned.  This gives you a small
> window listing the icons.  Very unobtrusive.
> 
> I know that not supporting icons further will upset some people.  However,
> changing one of the basic premises of the window manager will also make many
> people unhappy.

xOr
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I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way.

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