On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:24 PM, DJ Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote: >> Yeah, I argued that xclock and twm should stay since that's the >> default xinitrc. The counter argument was "then let's remove startx", >> so I think this is a compromise. >> >> >> > LMAO. Yeah, that be great...everyone writes their own startx script. > Good point for education in the book I guess. I just looked and it's > not nearly as complex as it used to be.
Yeah, I had a good chuckle about it at the time. The basic notion taken by Adam Jackson and Daniel Stone (two of the key developers, and handle a lot of the release stuff) is that the primary way people get X in the modern day is through a distro and the distro will setup X to their liking with a display manager and the X tools they think are necessary. He's not actually against startx (it's not going anywhere), but he just thinks there are better ways to interact with X and there are better ways to spend their time than making sure startx covers every single person's preferences. The important point being that the Xorg release won't be everything and the kitchen sink and that the distributor will add the packages they want. So, on Fedora, where Adam Jackson is a developer, they certainly include everything necessary to run X from a display manager (gdm by default) and xinit/startx, but it only starts twm during failsafe, and there's no xcalc to be found. This is probably what a lot of BLFSers do already. Build all the X libraries, but pick and choose the X apps that you want. So, actually, they've kind of done us a favor by slimming down the release list to "stuff you probably want". We already have a section that describes creating a .xinitrc that's pretty slim. We may want to turn that into editing the default xinitrc instead. What will probably need to be done is some notes in the applications section explaining that their are other apps that you may want, such as twm. Well, here's the thread that sparked a lot of this (sadly, I can't find the one where ajax suggests just killing off startx): http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-June/036415.html -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
