OK, I now understand why the book has put kf5 at the end of the kde4 stuff instead of separately. Plasma does build without systemd (I did not try sddm, there was no point), and I omitted things for bluez and some of the nm baggage, but some of the applications (specifically dragon and okular - there may be others) are still kde4 only. And if I'm going to build kde4 then for the moment I might as well _use_ kde4.
So, if anybody is minded to fill out the plasma "placeholder", _please_ note that some of the applications still need kde4. Plasma looks as annoying as kde4 (stupid transparency when I move windows, hard to configure, and if you pick the wrong menu when looking for an application there is no 'back' button, just let it close). For me, on my first attempt I could only open one instance of urxvt (trying to open a second, even on a different workspace, took me back to the existing one). I also have urxvt symlinked from xterm for compatability with old settings in icewm : I could open "xterm", but I suppose it had white text on a white background - nothing was visible. In konsole, the text was too small to read comfortably (could not see any option to change the size, probably it exists somewhere else), and typing was weird because the cursor was positioned some way to the right of the text (perhaps 8 or 10 characters - I didn't count because it was so small). Also, the logout button did nothing - that might be a missing dep on my build, but I think I've added all the things I had in kde4 where kdm does let me log out - for this build I'm using startx so ctrl-alt-backspace is good enough. ĸen -- This one goes up to eleven! -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page