TheOldFellow schrieb: > On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:01:02 +0100 > Heinrich Tomanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hi all, >> >> my 1st LFS using jhalfs (LFS 6.3 / LiveCD r2130) is working fine. >> Now I trying to do the next step: using blf-tools and BLFS. But I think, >> I did not understand the idea behind these tools. >> >> To build LFS with blfs-tool support seems not enough. After reboot, >> installing of BLFS packages fails because some system tools like sudo >> etc. are not installed. >> >> Have I to install needed tool manually? Before reboot? >> Should I build BLFS packages before reboot, directly after building LFS? >> >> What is the right path? >> >> Thanks a lot. >> Heinrich >> > > Bearing in mind that the whole idea behind LFS is to educate people in > building and using Linux, it's a pity that the documentation for the > jhalfs tool, like nalfs before it, is so poor. However the lead > developer's first language is not English, so he can be forgiven (and > even the original developer was American ;-). > > You'll need to look at the actual scripts to understand how they work > Heinrich. Then, once you've worked it all out, write us a jhalfs > howto :-) > > As Randy says, they are not newbie tools. But as I once said to my > programmers: "a program without user documentation is not a program at > all." But I was paying them, and no one pays the jhalfs team! > > BLFS is a 'dip in and build the bits you want' book, the blfs-tool is > more a: dependency management tool with a package builder on the back, > than a blfs automated machine. Its job is to examine the blfs book > and build a set of scripts to build the dependencies of the target as > well as the target itself. You then have to edit the scripts to make > something useful. It isn't an automated build system, like, say, > portage. > > Best of luck, > R. > >
The documentation is really poor, but it seems to be enough. I tried the whole procedure from scratch :) and … it works. Now, using LFS + jhalfs, BLFS with blfs_tool and my own tools, I am able to build a completely new system in 2 to 4 hours, depending on how much time I spend to the kernel configuration and how many BLFS packages should be compiled. The procedure is not fully automated, but it is what I am looking for – a defined bundle of commands. I will try to write down my results later. Many thanks to everyone, especially to the xLFS Team for the great job Heinrich -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
