On Wednesday 31 July 2013 12:13:42 Armin K. wrote:
> You don't need systemd service for hwclock. Systemd has timedated, a
> daemon which handles the clock. man timedatectl

thanks

I duly did man  man timedatectl   and found hwclock married up with ntp et al  
one needing a user passwd to access!.
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/timedatectl.html
ehmm ..
Why is control taken away from  the sysadmin to start/stop programs such as 
hwclock ntpd, to mount/unmount filesystems etc?  For example if I have an ipv6 
setup with ntpd; this  has slightly different calling options from 
one with ipv4 , same for dhcpd, dhclient etc etc.  Yet  this  seems 
inconsequential in systemD;  indeed I recall dhclient was not even supported. 
.  And  unit files do not support conditional processing, it is a start/stop 
affair and thats it.  The more I delve into it, the more I  am finding systemd 
a straightjacket-onsize-fits-all monstrosity.  
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