On 01-08-2014 19:31, Christopher Gregory wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-07-31 at 21:47 +0200, Armin K. wrote:
>> On 07/20/2014 09:16 PM, Armin K. wrote:

...

>>> If everything goes well and things don't get too complicated, we can
>>> expect BLFS systemd 7.6 along with BLFS 7.6.
>>>
>>> Have fun.
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~krejzi/blfs-systemd/
>>> [2] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~krejzi/
>>>
>>
>> After some time, I have finally finished reviewing and polishing what
>> was left, and I'm proud to say that I find the book to be production
>> ready. The latest snapshot is available at the same location, with
>> patches not in BLFS svn book available in blfs-systemd-patches
>> subdirectory of my home directory, while the blfs-systemd-units tarball
>> is still available from my home directory [2].
>>
>> This book contains 111 xml pages that were either heavily modified from
>> trunk/ or newly added ones - and that is without the GNOME section which
>> now offers full GNOME-3.12.2 Desktop Environment.

...

>>
>> Other changes include splitting libva and libvdpau from Xorg section
>> into their rightful multimedia section, introduction of libva drivers
>> page, addition of libva-vdpau-driver package, as well as removal of
>> standalone Glamor package in favor of Xorg Server's internal one.
>>


> I am glad that we have finally reached this stage of things.

Congratulations to you and Armin.

> It has been a real pleasure working with Armin on this project.

...

> 
> It would have taken me a lot longer to have gotten the book production
> ready on my own, as I had to learn exactly how everything worked when
> integrating it into the book.

Yes, that takes a time. Contrary to you, I started with the book in a
very good state, and only occasionally updating a package, specifically
from a sub-set of less than 10, so it easier than in in your case.

> I had to change directions early on as I could see that the way I had
> started to integrate Armin's notes and the main book was not really
> going to work.  It made it too confusing having two separate sets of
> instructions on the same page.  It needed to be broken out, even though
> it means that we are now going to have to manually make the changes to
> keep the main book and our version up to date.

I was expecting that. I thought a lot how eventual developers of an
eventual systemd book would work things out and always ended up thinking
that was the route.

And it is difficult with so much work you both did, to follow up, while
constantly having to update packags, so I got lost in what modifications
you both did and I wished them in BLFS...

> I still have a lot to learn because I tend to be too long winded in my
> explanations of what switches do etc.  Part of that comes from my
> background of working in a call centre for an ISP and also part from
> when I was a systems administrator for a webhosting company.  From the
> support emails people seemed to being confused as to exactly how to do
> things, so I tend to leave nothing out.

Interesting. I wish call centres in my country had people with 1% of
your knowledge. Also, my background is the opposite: Months or years of
works ended up as a text with relevance inversely proportional to the
length of the paper. A two page paper in a first class review much more
relevant than hundred page papers in lower rated reviews.

> I have created a build order page, which is the only page that I really
> was adamant that I wanted to remain in the book.  The reason for this is
> quite simple.  I find that it will be a lot easier for people to see the
> order that things are built in on a single page. 

This interests me. I would like to get a minimal even if with much less
functionality gnome desktop in trunk without gdm (if possible) and no
systemd. Your page would help a lot, I believe.


Again, congratulations to the BLFS systemd team.


-- 
[]s,
Fernando
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