On 26/08/2019 08:48, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote: > > >> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 at 5:38 PM >> From: "Pierre Labastie via blfs-support" >> <blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> >> To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org >> Cc: "Pierre Labastie" <pierre.labas...@neuf.fr> >> Subject: Re: [blfs-support] gdm: how to use a non us keyboard? >> >> On 25/08/2019 21:50, Pierre Labastie via blfs-support wrote: >>> On 25/08/2019 20:09, DJ Lucas via blfs-support wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/23/2019 7:56 PM, Ken Moffat via blfs-support wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 09:39:41PM +0200, Pierre Labastie via >>>>> blfs-support wrote: >>>>>> Will try using obconf in lxde. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pierre >>>>> Hi Pierre, >>>>> >>>>> not sure if https://issues.guix.info/issue/35118 might help for gdm. >>>>> >>>>> Some of the details look to be very specific to guix, but in patch 2 >>>>> localed is extracted from systemd and an xkeyboard patch is added. >>>>> >>>>> But all the wiring-up seems to be specific to how guix do things. >>>> Well, that seems like an interesting approach, and was fairly easy to do >>>> (took >>>> me about 20m...less time than it took for me to write this email in fact), >>>> but >>>> the Guix solution just uses "GUIX_XKB_*" environment variables. I hacked >>>> up a >>>> patch to elogind to mimic what Guix did if you want to fiddle with it and >>>> see. >>>> It does introduce a hard dependency on xkb-common. I renamed the workaround >>>> environment variables without the GUIX_ prefix. I haven't done any testing >>>> other than verifying that it builds and installs correctly (into DESTDIR, >>>> so >>>> at least no linking issues with elogind). The additional source files in >>>> the >>>> locale directory were taken directly from systemd-241. The variables that >>>> need >>>> to make their way into GDM's environment are >>>> XKB_{LAYOUT,MODEL,VARIANT,OPTIONS} (without configured /etc/vconsole.conf >>>> anyway), so it's a lot of systemd cruft left for just a simple workaround, >>>> but >>>> if it works, I could put a bit more time into it. Despite comment #6 in the >>>> above thread, it really wouldn't be _that_ difficult to decouple from >>>> elogind, >>>> but elogind would require a couple of small changes already in the patch >>>> below >>>> (or the handful of reintroduced functions added directly to the targets or >>>> a >>>> tiny libelocaled, but I'd much rather get these back into elogind and just >>>> depend on it). >>>> >>>> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~dj/elogind-241.3-add_localed-1.patch >>>> >>>> --DJ >>>> >>> >>> First, no joy trying to tweak greeter-dconf-defaults. This could have been >>> expected, since the source seems to rely on org.freedesktop.locale1 >>> >>> Will try the patch, to confirm that problems come from the lack of localed, >>> but I fear that we may encounter another problem: GNOME sets the local time >>> to >>> UTC, and while I can open the time-date configuration, I cannot save the >>> settings, and it falls back to UTC on a minute change. I suspect the lack of >>> datetimed... >>> >>> So at the end, we'll be building a big part of systemd (except PID 1...), >>> just >>> for the sake of GNOME... Is it worth it? >>> >>> Note that Gentoo pretends that GNOME 3.30 and 3.32 is usable with elogind + >>> openrc. But the ebuild file for gdm (3.30) does not seem to do more than >>> what >>> we do... Maybe there is something in openrc. >>> >> >> So I've rebuilt elogind with the patch provided by DJ, and now I have a >> "login" button in the region and language screen of gnome-control-center! >> Progress! Except the button does nothing /-: >> >> And no difference for gdm. I still have to try gnome on xorg. But I begin to >> be fed up of this. For now, I propose to add to the gdm page that it is >> impossible to have a non us keyboard, but it is possible to bring up the >> screen keyboard, and enter the password by clicking on keys. >> >> Pierre >> -- >> http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support >> FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html >> Unsubscribe: See the above information page >> > > Hello Pierre, > > Sorry but this is going to probably come out of context due to mail servers > slow delivery. > > The same problem that you are having with the keyboard and gdm, has been > addressed in freebsd, who do not run systemd. > > They found that the issue is with gnome-shell which forces the use of systemd. > > They created a patch back in January of this year, which may well be able to > be modified for lfs/blfs purposes: > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=235009 >
Thanks Christopher, but the last post of the thread does not make me very optimistic... One patch does not apply (and seems to be using the freebsd build system), while the other does do anything... Giving up for now. I may try all this in a systemd build, if I have time, but I want to try other things re extra-cmake-modules before the release... Pierre -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
