Hi

So something is wrong elsewhere?  Please confirm systemd is okay.

>Looks like there's something wrong in your systemd install (or on the way 
>gnome-session accesses
>it, maybe). Does the following return something?

>gdbus introspect --system --dest org.freedesktop.systemd1 \
>--object-path /org/freedesktop/systemd1

This is the output.  Apologies for the length.

>If it does, there is something wrong elsewhere. But I suspect using a
>non-systemd procedure on a systemd host doesn't work

node /org/freedesktop/systemd1 {
  interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Peer {
    methods:
      Ping();
      GetMachineId(out s machine_uuid);
    signals:
    properties:
  };
  interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable {
    methods:
      Introspect(out s data);
    signals:
    properties:
  };
  interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties {
    methods:
      Get(in  s interface,
          in  s property,
          out v value);
      GetAll(in  s interface,
             out a{sv} properties);
      Set(in  s interface,
          in  s property,
          in  v value);
    signals:
      PropertiesChanged(s interface,
                        a{sv} changed_properties,
                        as invalidated_properties);
    properties:
  };
  interface org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager {
    methods:
      GetUnit(in  s arg_0,
              out o arg_1);
      GetUnitByPID(in  u arg_0,
                   out o arg_1);
      GetUnitByInvocationID(in  ay arg_0,
                            out o arg_1);
      GetUnitByControlGroup(in  s arg_0,
                            out o arg_1);
      LoadUnit(in  s arg_0,
               out o arg_1);
      StartUnit(in  s arg_0,
                in  s arg_1,
                out o arg_2);
      StartUnitReplace(in  s arg_0,
                       in  s arg_1,
                       in  s arg_2,
                       out o arg_3);
      StopUnit(in  s arg_0,
               in  s arg_1,
               out o arg_2);
      ReloadUnit(in  s arg_0,
                 in  s arg_1,
                 out o arg_2);
      RestartUnit(in  s arg_0,
                  in  s arg_1,
                  out o arg_2);
      TryRestartUnit(in  s arg_0,
                     in  s arg_1,
                     out o arg_2);
      ReloadOrRestartUnit(in  s arg_0,
                          in  s arg_1,
                          out o arg_2);
      ReloadOrTryRestartUnit(in  s arg_0,
                             in  s arg_1,
                             out o arg_2);
      EnqueueUnitJob(in  s arg_0,
                     in  s arg_1,
                     in  s arg_2,
                     out u arg_3,
                     out o arg_4,
                     out s arg_5,
                     out o arg_6,
                     out s arg_7,
                     out a(uosos) arg_8);
      KillUnit(in  s arg_0,
               in  s arg_1,
               in  i arg_2);
      CleanUnit(in  s arg_0,
                in  as arg_1);
      ResetFailedUnit(in  s arg_0);
      SetUnitProperties(in  s arg_0,
                        in  b arg_1,
                        in  a(sv) arg_2);
      RefUnit(in  s arg_0);
      UnrefUnit(in  s arg_0);
      StartTransientUnit(in  s arg_0,
                         in  s arg_1,
                         in  a(sv) arg_2,
                         in  a(sa(sv)) arg_3,
                         out o arg_4);
      GetUnitProcesses(in  s arg_0,
                       out a(sus) arg_1);
      AttachProcessesToUnit(in  s arg_0,
                            in  s arg_1,
                            in  au arg_2);
      AbandonScope(in  s arg_0);
      GetJob(in  u arg_0,
             out o arg_1);
      GetJobAfter(in  u arg_0,
                  out a(usssoo) arg_1);
      GetJobBefore(in  u arg_0,
                   out a(usssoo) arg_1);
      CancelJob(in  u arg_0);
      ClearJobs();
      ResetFailed();
      ListUnits(out a(ssssssouso) arg_0);
      ListUnitsFiltered(in  as arg_0,
                        out a(ssssssouso) arg_1);
      ListUnitsByPatterns(in  as arg_0,
                          in  as arg_1,
                          out a(ssssssouso) arg_2);
      ListUnitsByNames(in  as arg_0,
                       out a(ssssssouso) arg_1);
      ListJobs(out a(usssoo) arg_0);
      Subscribe();
      Unsubscribe();
      Dump(out s arg_0);
      DumpByFileDescriptor(out h arg_0);
      Reload();
      Reexecute();
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      Exit();
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      Reboot();
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      PowerOff();
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      Halt();
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      KExec();
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      SwitchRoot(in  s arg_0,
                 in  s arg_1);
      SetEnvironment(in  as arg_0);
      UnsetEnvironment(in  as arg_0);
      UnsetAndSetEnvironment(in  as arg_0,
                             in  as arg_1);
      ListUnitFiles(out a(ss) arg_0);
      ListUnitFilesByPatterns(in  as arg_0,
                              in  as arg_1,
                              out a(ss) arg_2);
      GetUnitFileState(in  s arg_0,
                       out s arg_1);
      EnableUnitFiles(in  as arg_0,
                      in  b arg_1,
                      in  b arg_2,
                      out b arg_3,
                      out a(sss) arg_4);
      DisableUnitFiles(in  as arg_0,
                       in  b arg_1,
                       out a(sss) arg_2);
      ReenableUnitFiles(in  as arg_0,
                        in  b arg_1,
                        in  b arg_2,
                        out b arg_3,
                        out a(sss) arg_4);
      LinkUnitFiles(in  as arg_0,
                    in  b arg_1,
                    in  b arg_2,
                    out a(sss) arg_3);
      PresetUnitFiles(in  as arg_0,
                      in  b arg_1,
                      in  b arg_2,
                      out b arg_3,
                      out a(sss) arg_4);
      PresetUnitFilesWithMode(in  as arg_0,
                              in  s arg_1,
                              in  b arg_2,
                              in  b arg_3,
                              out b arg_4,
                              out a(sss) arg_5);
      MaskUnitFiles(in  as arg_0,
                    in  b arg_1,
                    in  b arg_2,
                    out a(sss) arg_3);
      UnmaskUnitFiles(in  as arg_0,
                      in  b arg_1,
                      out a(sss) arg_2);
      RevertUnitFiles(in  as arg_0,
                      out a(sss) arg_1);
      SetDefaultTarget(in  s arg_0,
                       in  b arg_1,
                       out a(sss) arg_2);
      GetDefaultTarget(out s arg_0);
      PresetAllUnitFiles(in  s arg_0,
                         in  b arg_1,
                         in  b arg_2,
                         out a(sss) arg_3);
      AddDependencyUnitFiles(in  as arg_0,
                             in  s arg_1,
                             in  s arg_2,
                             in  b arg_3,
                             in  b arg_4,
                             out a(sss) arg_5);
      GetUnitFileLinks(in  s arg_0,
                       in  b arg_1,
                       out as arg_2);
      SetExitCode(in  y arg_0);
      LookupDynamicUserByName(in  s arg_0,
                              out u arg_1);
      LookupDynamicUserByUID(in  u arg_0,
                             out s arg_1);
      GetDynamicUsers(out a(us) arg_0);
    signals:
      UnitNew(s arg_0,
              o arg_1);
      UnitRemoved(s arg_0,
                  o arg_1);
      JobNew(u arg_0,
             o arg_1,
             s arg_2);
      JobRemoved(u arg_0,
                 o arg_1,
                 s arg_2,
                 s arg_3);
      StartupFinished(t arg_0,
                      t arg_1,
                      t arg_2,
                      t arg_3,
                      t arg_4,
                      t arg_5);
      UnitFilesChanged();
      Reloading(b arg_0);
    properties:
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly s Version = '244';
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly s Features = '+PAM -AUDIT -SELINUX +IMA -APPARMOR +SMACK 
+SYSVINIT +UTMP -LIBCRYPTSETUP -GCRYPT +GNUTLS +ACL +XZ -LZ4 -SECCOMP +BLKID 
-ELFUTILS +KMOD -IDN2 -IDN +PCRE2 default-hierarchy=unified';
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly s Virtualization = '';
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly s Architecture = 'x86-64';
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly s Tainted = 'local-hwclock';
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t FirmwareTimestamp = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t FirmwareTimestampMonotonic = 12217499;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t LoaderTimestamp = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t LoaderTimestampMonotonic = 3129114;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t KernelTimestamp = 1584286305879601;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t KernelTimestampMonotonic = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDTimestamp = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDTimestampMonotonic = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t UserspaceTimestamp = 1584286306814949;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t UserspaceTimestampMonotonic = 935348;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t FinishTimestamp = 1584286307595603;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t FinishTimestampMonotonic = 1716002;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t SecurityStartTimestamp = 1584286306818746;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t SecurityStartTimestampMonotonic = 939145;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t SecurityFinishTimestamp = 1584286306819190;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t SecurityFinishTimestampMonotonic = 939589;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t GeneratorsStartTimestamp = 1584286306971929;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t GeneratorsStartTimestampMonotonic = 1092328;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t GeneratorsFinishTimestamp = 1584286306981141;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t GeneratorsFinishTimestampMonotonic = 1101540;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t UnitsLoadStartTimestamp = 1584286306981142;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t UnitsLoadStartTimestampMonotonic = 1101541;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t UnitsLoadFinishTimestamp = 1584286307019947;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t UnitsLoadFinishTimestampMonotonic = 1140346;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDSecurityStartTimestamp = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDSecurityStartTimestampMonotonic = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDSecurityFinishTimestamp = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDSecurityFinishTimestampMonotonic = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDGeneratorsStartTimestamp = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDGeneratorsStartTimestampMonotonic = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDGeneratorsFinishTimestamp = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDGeneratorsFinishTimestampMonotonic = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDUnitsLoadStartTimestamp = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDUnitsLoadStartTimestampMonotonic = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDUnitsLoadFinishTimestamp = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t InitRDUnitsLoadFinishTimestampMonotonic = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      readwrite s LogLevel = 'info';
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      readwrite s LogTarget = 'journal-or-kmsg';
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly u NNames = 788;
      readonly u NFailedUnits = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly u NJobs = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly u NInstalledJobs = 106;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly u NFailedJobs = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly d Progress = 1.0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly as Environment = ['LANG=en_GB.UTF-8', 
'PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin'];
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly b ConfirmSpawn = false;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly b ShowStatus = true;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly as UnitPath = ['/etc/systemd/system.control', 
'/run/systemd/system.control', '/run/systemd/transient', 
'/run/systemd/generator.early', '/etc/systemd/system', 
'/etc/systemd/system.attached', '/run/systemd/system', 
'/run/systemd/system.attached', '/run/systemd/generator', 
'/usr/local/lib/systemd/system', '/lib/systemd/system', 
'/usr/lib/systemd/system', '/run/systemd/generator.late'];
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly s DefaultStandardOutput = 'journal';
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly s DefaultStandardError = 'journal';
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      readwrite t RuntimeWatchdogUSec = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      readwrite t RebootWatchdogUSec = 600000000;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      readwrite t KExecWatchdogUSec = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      @org.freedesktop.systemd1.Privileged("true")
      readwrite b ServiceWatchdogs = true;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly s ControlGroup = '';
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly s SystemState = 'running';
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly y ExitCode = 0x00;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultTimerAccuracyUSec = 60000000;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultTimeoutStartUSec = 90000000;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultTimeoutStopUSec = 90000000;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly t DefaultTimeoutAbortUSec = 90000000;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultRestartUSec = 100000;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultStartLimitIntervalUSec = 10000000;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly u DefaultStartLimitBurst = 5;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly b DefaultCPUAccounting = true;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly b DefaultBlockIOAccounting = false;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly b DefaultMemoryAccounting = true;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly b DefaultTasksAccounting = true;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitCPU = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitCPUSoft = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitFSIZE = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitFSIZESoft = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitDATA = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitDATASoft = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitSTACK = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitSTACKSoft = 8388608;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitCORE = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitCORESoft = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitRSS = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitRSSSoft = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitNOFILE = 524288;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitNOFILESoft = 1024;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitAS = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitASSoft = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitNPROC = 63083;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitNPROCSoft = 63083;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitMEMLOCK = 65536;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitMEMLOCKSoft = 65536;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitLOCKS = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitLOCKSSoft = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitSIGPENDING = 63083;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitSIGPENDINGSoft = 63083;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitMSGQUEUE = 819200;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitMSGQUEUESoft = 819200;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitNICE = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitNICESoft = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitRTPRIO = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitRTPRIOSoft = 0;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitRTTIME = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t DefaultLimitRTTIMESoft = 18446744073709551615;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("false")
      readonly t DefaultTasksMax = 18925;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly t TimerSlackNSec = 50000;
      @org.freedesktop.DBus.Property.EmitsChangedSignal("const")
      readonly s DefaultOOMPolicy = 'stop';
  };
  node job {
  };
  node unit {
  };
};

thanks

Cliff
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