Thanks this was most enlightening...

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From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSCONFIG


> Hi David,
> Your post could become confusing.
> You started with programs, and then jumped to processes, and then back to
> the mention of programs again.
> Programs that are listed in the startup group in the system configuration
> utility, should not be directly associated with running processes that are
> shown in the Windows task manager.
>>From what I've seen on several systems, programs loading at startup, do 
>>not
> always show up as running processes.
> On the other hand, many of the services loaded at startup will show up as
> running processes.
> Normally you can expect a direct connection between programsloading at
> startup with programs shown in the system tray,,
> however, not all programs that load at startup, will have an icon in the
> system tray.
> It has been my experience that the majority of programs that load at
> startup,
> with the exception of security software, are unnecessary.
> When these programs are allowed to load, they steal valuable resources 
> when
> they are not even being used by the computer user.
> Because there are so many different configurations from so many different
> computer manufacturers, it can be difficult to accurately say
> which can stay, and which ones need to go.
> A general rule of thumb to go by is this:
> If you study the path of the program in question, and find that is to the
> c:\program files directory,
> more than likely it can be disabled without harm to the system or boot
> routine.
> When installing software, the user should be alert to any dialogue that 
> asks
> to load the program at startup, and say no to that dialogue.
> Again, that is with the exception of security software.
> Most Programs do not have to be loaded at startup, this is only done as a
> convenience to the user.
> HTH,
> Richard Justice
> www.blind-computing.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSCONFIG
>
>
>> Afraid I definitely disagree on at least one point.
>>
>> CCAP is the main Norton Anti-Virus program and should not be deleted.
>> Deleting start up programs without knowing what they are is I think a
>> little
>> gung ho.
>> I would recommend a good little freeware program called Proc Info.
>> Running this will establish what processes are being loaded and whether 
>> it
>> is safe to remove them. I found some processes with strange names were
>> actually quite essential for things I wanted to do. Proc Info checks
>> against
>> a web database of processes.
>>
>> Proc Info will recommend removing processes which are known to slow your
>> computer like the QuickTime system tray agent so it is quite useful for
>> getting rid of the garbage.
>>
>> I was sighted the last time I used this but I think it is likely to be
>> accessible as it was a simple program layout without graphical bells and
>> whistles.
>>
>> There may be other utilities that do this job of identifying what 
>> programs
>> are safe or recommended to remove from start up. I got if from a freeware
>> site called Nonags.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>>
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>> Sent: 30 September 2007 00:34
>> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSCONFIG
>>
>>
>> Hello Patricia,
>>
>> I believe that you can uncheck the programs that you specified in your
>> list.
>>
>> I unchecked all programs except antivirus and spy sweeper.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>                                                                 Aran
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Patricia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "BC" <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 5:39 PM
>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSCONFIG
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I was wondering if any of these items listed in my MS Config startup 
>>> page
>>> can be safely unchecked without causing any problems running my 
>>> computer?
>>>
>>> I think some have to do with my Norton antivirus program the common 
>>> files
>>> and the sym which I would leave them checked, but all the Microsoft ones
>>> I
>>> would like to know if they could or should be unchecked at startup?
>>>
>>> I am currently running xp pro and Jaws 8.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Patricia
>>>
>>> Startup Item Command Location
>>> ehtray C:\WINDOWS\ehome\... HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVer.
>>> ccApp "c:\Program Files\Com...
>>> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVer.
>>> CTHELPER CTHELPER.EXE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVer.
>>> SNDMon C:\PROGRA~1\SYMNE... HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVer.
>>> ISUSPM C:\PROGRA~1\COMM... HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVer.
>>> issch "C:\Program Files\Com...
>>> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVer.
>>> dumprep 0 -u %systemroot%\syste...
>>> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVer.
>>> ctfmon C:\WINDOWS\system... HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVer.
>>> update C:\PROGRA~1\COMM... HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVer.
>>> Reader_sl "C:\Program Files\Ado...
>>> SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Ru
>>> ARPWRMSG ARPWRMSG.EXE SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Ru
>>> cli "C:\Program Files\ATI ...
>>> SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Ru
>>>
>>> Patricia:
>>> Cheerfulness is the best promoter of health and is as friendly to the
>>> mind
>>> as to the body. - Joseph Addison
>>>
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