Hi David

any ideas how we'd get this utility if we don't have a windows Disk?

I had to create my own windows restore disk so therefore do not have a windows Disk as such.

Thanks

Elaine

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Whitehead" <d.h.whiteh...@sympatico.ca>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files


hello there;


If you use Windows XP Professional, the Windows Backup utility
(Ntbackup.exe) should be ready for use. If you use Windows XP Home Edition,
you'll need to
follow these steps to install the utility:


1.

Insert your Windows XP CD into the drive and, if necessary, double-click the
CD icon in My Computer.

2.

On the Welcome to Microsoft Windows XP screen, click Perform Additional
Tasks.

3.

Click Browse this CD.

4.

In Windows Explorer, double-click the ValueAdd folder, then Msft, and then
Ntbackup.

5.

Double-click Ntbackup.msi to install the Backup utility.

now, you should find,
the system Windows Backup utility in
programs/system/tools.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <merlin...@mchsi.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files


Rogelio,

I will try to explain what I do to backup my C drive.

You have to enter on the following link when you start the system backup:

If you prefer, you can switch to Advanced Mode to change the
settings used for backup or restore. This option is recommended
for advanced users only.

the following screen is displayed:

Backup Utility - [Untitled]
Job Edit View Tools Help
Welcome Backup Restore and Manage Media Schedule Jobs
Welcome to the Backup Utility Advanced Mode
If you prefer, you can switch to Wizard Mode to
use simplified settings for backup or restore.
Backup Wizard (Advanced)
The Backup wizard helps you create a backup of your programs and files.
Restore Wizard (Advanced)
The Restore wizard helps you restore your data from a backup.
Automated System Recovery Wizard
The ASR Preparation wizard helps you create a
two-part backup of your system: a floppy disk that has
your system settings, and other media that
contains a backup of your local system partition.
Ready

You will be in the welcome pad, Do a CTRL+tab to
move to the next screen. You will then be in the
backup pad. Partial display of the screen is shown below:

Backup Utility - [Untitled]
Job Edit View Tools Help
Welcome Backup Restore and Manage Media Schedule Jobs
Click to select the check box for any drive,
folder or file that you want to back up.
Desktop Name Comment
My Computer My Computer
3½ Floppy (A:)
Local Disk (C:)
DVD Drive (F:)
CD-RW Drive (G:)
System State
My Documents
My Network Places
Backup destination: Backup options:
File Normal backup.  Summary log.   Start Backup Some file types excluded.
Backup media or file name:

You will be in a preview. Move to open up my
computer and arrow down the list. If you have a
floppy drive A, you will get an error message if
there is no floppy disk in the drive. See Below:

The drive "A:" did not respond. Please make sure
there is a valid disk in the drive and
the drive is functioning correctly.
OK

Just enter on the OK button and arrow down one
item. You should be on the local drive C. Hit the
spacebar to check it. If you have other drives
and there are no CD in the drive, you will also
get the error message. Simply enter on the OK
button. Arrow down until you reach system state and check it with the
spacebar.

After selecting your drives to backup, tab twice
to enter the path and file name where you want
the backup to be stored. In my case it would be:

J:\C backup 2009-04-22

Then tab twice to start the backup button.

Depending on the size of your data on the C
drive, it can take a while. My backup takes
approximately 1 hour and 15 minutes.

When the backup is finish, I tab to the backup
report and read the results of the backup. This
is a text file that will come up in NotePad.

I have not gone into the more advanced portion of
window system backup. However, I have use the
wizard mode to restore certain files from my C
backup. The restore process is another process. I
sometime choose an alternate location to restore
a file especially if I don't want to overwrite
what is currently on my computer. I never had a
system crash where I had to do a complete restore.

I use the system backup to backup all my music
files which is on a separate hard drive. The
original hard drive crashed and after I had a new
hard drive installed, I did a full rescore of all
my music from the backup. It works like a champ.
The only problem that I had was that the backup
was old and I did not have a more recent backup
at that time. I learned my lesson and backup everything more frequently.

Let me know if I can be of any further help.

Lennie

At 05:07 PM 4/22/2009, you wrote:
Could you tell me how to use Windows System Backup? I think that is the one I am looking for.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <merlin...@mchsi.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files


Don,

Do you happen to know what is the difference between an image copy and window system backup? I usually run the window system backup twice a month and I also use it to backup my documents at least weekly. I have two external hard drive that I make my backups so if one fails, the other one would be available. It is like having a backup for a backup.

I have done some restore from the window system backup mainly for my personal files, but I never have to use it to restore my computer. In fact, if I have to I wouldn't know how to bring my computer back to the point of the most recent backup.

I also have Karen's replicator which use for my Word and Excel files. I usually do a backup whenever I do a lot of changes to my files.

Anyway, I am curious what you or anyone else on the list thinks of using window system backup. I listened to David's tutorial on image copy and I have been toying around with the idea to purchase the software and do an image copy of my computer.

Thanks for any comments,

Lennie

At 04:05 PM 4/22/2009, you wrote:
To be completely safe, you should backup your personal data files on a regular basis AND also have a baseline full image of your entire hard disk. The frequency of backing up your personal files depends on how often the data changes and its importance.

I use Karen's Replicator to backup my personal files each night. It is free and is located on the Programs page. Each night I copy my JAWS scripts directories to my Documents folder, copy a folder of downloads and archives, my Documents folder, and my mail directories to another computer in our house. Of course, you could also backup to an external hard drive or an on-line storage service. On-line storage services are a great idea for dependable storage that is off site in case off a fire or a natural disaster. It might be a good idea to keep of your valuable data for safety, even if you make a local copy. This storage is normally encrypted automatically. Many services are free for a limited amount of storage and a monthly fee for more or unlimited storage.

Making a complete image copy of the entire hard disk can make recovering from a hard disk disaster much easier. You should make an image of a baseline system. This ideally would be at a time when your computer has all of your desired programs installed and the system is stable. With a program like Image for Windows, recovery can take less than an hour. That includes all programs and settings back exactly as they were at the time the baseline was taken! Then you can restore any new personal data from your nightly data backups performed with Karen's Replicator. You should only need to make a full image backup when their have been significant changes made to the system. I anticipate doing this about twice a year. If you like to experiment with new software, it would be a great idea to make a baseline before installing the new experimental software. Then you don't have to worry too much about destroying your configuration, since it easily can be rolled back in less than an hour. Some software like from GiveAwayOfTheDay or in my case my daughter's installation of Spore can not just simply be installed again. An image restore eliminates these issues. It also is the best way to get rid of nasty Spyware and Viruses that fight from being removed.

Personally, I have been putting this off for years! There is no longer any good reasons not to backup anymore with external drives being so cheap. It is fairly easy to find a 1 Terabyte external hard disk for less than $100. Normally, creating the image is easy. Traditionally, the recovery process can be troublesome for a blind person. The recovery from the backup image files, like an external hard disk, to your internal hard drive requires booting from another source, like DOS from a CD. Most of the time there is no speech available for this process. Dave has a very good tutorial for using Image for Windows for making there image and performing the recovery process on the website.

I purchased Image for Windows this week. It includes a copy of Image for DOS and Image for Linux. The recent Image for Linux includes a utility to create a Recovery CD that has SpeakUp built into its Linux kernel. The CD is used to boot from in case of disaster. With a boot parameter to enable the speech at startup the recovery process can be accomplished through an easy to use program which is very similar to the Windows program where the image was created. It is possible to customize the Recovery CD to make the speech automatic on boot. I am currently playing with this and merging Image for Linux with Vinux. Vinux is an amazing distribution of Linux. Specifically Vinux is a customized distribution of Ubuntu that is preconfigured for the blind and visually impaired. I view this as a major breakthrough! Many PC experts have stated vigorously that the newest Ubuntu is the first distribution of Linux where it is a viable replacement for Windows!

An ISO file of a complete Vinux Live CD can be downloaded at the address below. If you burn this to a disk, you can boot and run this Version of Linux with speech and magnification automatically enabled without installing any software on your hard drive and test it out. It also includes a utility to install a copy to a hard disk, USB drive, or make a customized CD/DVD.
 http://vinux.org.uk/

Remember that backing up will save a tremendous amount of headaches later!

Don Marang


----- Original Message ----- From: "Job Hunter" <jobhun...@box547.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files


Try Image for Windows at www.terabyteunlimited.com.
Very good program and works well with Jaws.
John

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rogelio Terrazas" <rogelio.terra...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:08 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files


How can I back up all my files in my C drive? In case I ever have to reinstall my computer. Thanks, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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