I don't think it's so much about being a non-conformist, but sometimes
there's something else that works better than a Microsoft product. I
haven't used Thunderbird, so I can't comment on it, but since it's a
Mozilla product, I'd be willing to bet it's more stable than Outlook
or Live Mail. The reason I say this is because I've used Firefox for
over a year now and love it. If you notice, IE doesn't have any such
plugin like WebVisum to help us blind folks out with captchas. Firefox
is also more secure. True, constantly updating your flash player and
quicktime can be annoying because you have to do taht in order for it
to play sounds, but I consider that a minor inconvenience considering
that it is much faster than IE. Sometimes people take the plunge and
break away from microsoft products because they're actually better!

On 12/17/09, blindguy <blindgu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I agree, live mail sucks and I, to must swich to jaws 10 to make it work.
> After a while though, I just said forget it and swiched to ms outlook 07.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:17 PM
> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] I took the plunge and am Now trying to
> gowithThunderbird
>
> JAWS does not work well with Microsoft Live Mail!  Since Outlook Express and
>
> Windows Mail are not available in Windows7, people are forced to switch to
> something.  FS has scripts for Live Mail in JAWS 10 and 11, but they have
> lots of flaws.  The JAWS 10 scripts actually work better for me than JAWS
> 11.  I can not even read mail with JAWS 11!  I need to switch to JAWS 10
> every time I want to read mail.  This gets very agravating!  The scripts for
>
> JAWS 10 are less annoying and my biggest complaint is that it will not
> announce "unread" or indicate when there is an enclosure.  FS is very aware
> of the problem, do not seem interested in fixing the problems or even
> admitting that they have scripts for Live Mail.  They seem to think that
> everybody should dish out more money for Outlook, since that is what all of
> their corporate accounts require.
>
> I am seriously thinking of switching to Thunderbird 3 as well, and I have
> more interesting things to do than play around with a mail program.  I have
> downloaded the program, but have other things to do.
>
> Don Marang
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bill Gallik" <billgal...@centurytel.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:11 PM
> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] I took the plunge and am Now trying to
> gowithThunderbird
>
>> I'm completely confused as to why, if folks are experiencing so much
>> difficulty, they are prone to use browsers and e-mail clients other than
>> Internet Explorer and Windows Mail or Outlook.  I understand the "glamour"
>
>> of being able to identify one's self as a non-conformist and hence using
>> tools other than those provided by Microsoft, but considering the
>> difficulties I've seen on various lists I wouldn't touch any of these
>> tools with someone else's screen reader.  Obviously, JAWS has been
>> developed and delivered complete with strong support files to interact
>> with Internet Explorer and any of the Microsoft e-mail clients.  I presume
>
>> the same can be said for WindowEyes.  So, why not not use what works best
>> given the framework of needing to use a screen reader?
>>
>> I guess, that since I was a software developer for so many years, I find
>> no personal satisfaction in being able to say I am not a conformist.  I
>> just want to use what works the best given my limitations.
>>
>> If the reason for using the non-Microsoft tools is enhanced security, then
>
>> why not take the entire plunge and move to Linux?
>>
>> Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!!!
>> ----
>> Holland's Person, Bill
>> E-Mail: billgal...@centurytel.net
>> In the opening paragraphs of "A Christmas Carol" Dickens is overwrought to
>
>> express that Jacob Marley is dead:
>> "Mind! I don't mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is
>
>> particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself,
>> to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade.
>> But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands
>> shall not disturb it, or the Country's done for. You will therefore permit
>
>> me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail."
>>
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