Hi Al,
I don't know if dos works with USB,
but if it does, you might try using it with the del command.
If this is possible, others may have to give you the particulars on this.
HTH,
Rick Justice
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <arobb...@nycap.rr.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


Ken,

I did and that still does not work. I tried the other night
when Mike suggested as well. I'm at a loss on how to get
this off an external drive. The chakdsk thing worked well on
the internal but.... Hopefully somebody has some other idea.
Thanks for the suggestion

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of
ken d
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:44 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


Al
Try arrowing down in your "application" list to "delete",
while being
focussed on the corrupt file; it worked for me-- after I did
unlock and all
the other suggestions that came along. Ken D
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


Ishe,

Well on the reboot this morning, I made sure the external
hard drive was turned on and plugged in but the chkdsk
process did not finish as it does with internal units.
Computer booted as normal and I cannot delete that corrupt
file & directory. Any other ideas on this?

thanks
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf
Of
Ishe
Chinyoka
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 6:55 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


If your computer boots while the USB disc is connected, it
will perform the
disk checking first thing before Windows loads. In fact,
one
of the primary
operations during the boot process is checking your
hardware
integrity for
any errors and loads any software afterwards.
In your case, I believe that when Windows failed to
complete
the task, it
will be completed during the boot process regardless of
the
media you are
using.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <arobb...@nycap.rr.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


Joshua, or others

Well I just ran a chkdsk on an external hard drive with a
corrupt file or directory and it ran through the first of
three steps just like the internal one did last evening.
However, it did not complete the last two steps as the
note
below indicates it will, and it did identify 3 things it
deleted on its first pass. I have not rebooted my
computer
this evening as I don't want to tie it up as I need to
use
it. But, here is my question. When I reboot later how is
chkdsk going to finish the job like it did with my
internal
drive last evening as it is hooked up through a USB port
and
I don't believe they become active until Window's boots?
I
did try unplugging the drive and reconnecting but still
can't delete that directory/file until the process
completes
itself.

thanks Al

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf
Of
Joshua
Klander
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 1:18 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


Hello.  If you scan a portable hard drive, the entire
process
will take place when the computer is running.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <arobb...@nycap.rr.com
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Sat, 29 May 2010 13:06:22 -0400
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory

Ishe,

One additional question, if I run chkdsk on a portable
hard
drive connected through a USB connection, can the entire
process take place while the computer is running or will
it
have to reboot and finish? If the later, how does that
work
since I don't believe the USB ports are active until
after
Windows boots?

thanks
Al

-----Original Message-----
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Of
Ishe
Chinyoka
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 9:09 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


Glad it worked.

Of course you can choose to do this regularly, but it is
not
always
necessary unless you find some corrupt files.
However, for better system performance I recommend this
and
a few
housekeeping chores.  I personally schedule such things
as
defragmentation,
disk cleanup, backups and of course the disk checking
utility on a monthly
basis.  To let this not interfere with your day to day
work,
you can just add
these command line tasks to the Schedule Tasks in the
Control Panel so that
they may take place without your interference in future.

Thanks and and take care,

Ishe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <arobb...@nycap.rr.com
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


Ishe,

Thanks, problem resolved.  When I did this last night, it
said there were 3 parts to the process and the first one
completed relatively quickly and I did hear something
toward
the end about deleting something.  It did not finish the
process until I booted this morning which took quite a
while
since the G drive where I keep my backups is quite large.
This was a great tip and I'll keep for future reference .
Is
it a good maintenance practice to run chkdsk on drives
occasionally?

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf
Of
Ishe
Chinyoka
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 4:47 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


The chkdsk utility is found in the system root, so you
simply open a command
line and type "chkdsk".
This is used for checking your disk integrity and
recovering
lost chains in
any directory.
From the message you are receiving, it looks like chkdsk
could be the
solution.

Open Run from the Start menu.
Type cmd and press Enter.
When the command prompt appears, simply type chkdsk,
followed by the path to
the directory which is corrupted or its drive.
For example, you can type chkdsk E:documents
or simply chkdsk E:
The verbose output will be spoken back by Jaws (or any
screen reader) so you
won't be bored by waiting.

Hope this may work.
Cheers
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <arobb...@nycap.rr.com
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


Ishe,

Thanks for the site.  I went there and this is the
description
"Ever had such an annoying message given by Windows:
Cannot
delete file: Access is denied.  There has been a sharing
violation.  The source or destination file may be in use
or
the file is in use by another program or user.  Make sure
the
disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is
not
currently in use.  Unlocker is the solution.  Unlocker is
an
Explorer extension that allows you with a simple
right-click
of the mouse on a file or folder to get rid of error
message
such as error deleting file or folder, cannot delete
folder:
it is used by another person or program."

Although this sounds like a useful tool in some
situations
I
believe my situation may be different? Here's the message
I'm getting:
Error Deleting File or Folder
Cannot delete Shoe #25.xls: The file or directory is
corrupted and unreadable.
OK "

Any suggestions on how to deal with this? Your other
suggestion of running chkdsk on the directory or file
sounds
good but I don't see an option to do that.  What would
the
command line in the run dialogue box look like to execute
that task?

thanks in advance
Al





-----Original Message-----
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf
Of
Ishe
Chinyoka
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 3:55 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


Hi Mike and friends

You can download Unlocker Assistant here:




http://download.cnet.com/Unlocker/3000-2248_4-10493998.html

Basically it helps to eliminate those Windows annoying
messages like "Access
is denied" or phrasing to that effect.

Take care,

Ishe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69ma...@charter.net
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


Hi Ishe;

Where does someone get this Unlocker tool you speak of?
It sounds like it
would be a handy tool to have available.  I am running
XPSP3 Home.  Take
care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ishe Chinyoka" <chinyoka.consult...@gmail.com
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt
directory


1.  Run chkdsk on the directory to recover some chains.

or

2.  Get the Unlocker tool.  It will show you which
process
is locking that
file.  Try unlocking the file and delete it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <arobb...@nycap.rr.com
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt
directory


Mike,

Thanks for the suggestion but does not appear to work.
I
finally tracked down the culprit file about 6-7
directories
deep and it has nothing before it.  I can't rename it,
open
it, move it etc.  Any other ideas from anyone?

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on
Behalf
Of
Mike &
Barbara
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:21 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt
directory


Hi Al;

If I remember correctly, these corrupted files have a
tilda
or some kind of
sign at the front of their title.  If you press your F2
key
with the file in
question highlighted and delete the sign out of the
name
then press enter I
think the file can now be deleted.  Pressing the F2 on
a
highlighted file
allows you to change / alter the whole name / title or
any
part of it.
After you have made the changes to your title / name
press
enter to save the
changes and save them.  Hope, and I do mean hope, this
helps.  Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" <arobb...@nycap.rr.com
To: "Blind-Computing" <blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:16 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Deleting corrupt directory


Good afternoon,

I run across this problem once in a while and am
presently
facing it.  Is there a way to delete a directory and/or
file
that has become corrupt and window's will not allow one
to
delete it? This is an old backup file within a
directory
on
a back up drive.  I know I could re format the drive but
then
I would need to copy all the good data back and that is
considerable.  Any suggestions?

Al


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