Believe me, it is much easier to attach the hangers to the ledger first and then just drop the joist into the hanger. To align them to the top of the ledger board it is helpful to use a short scrap of the correct dimension, that is to say a three or four inch length of 2 by 8 or 2 by 10 or what ever you are using for joists.
The best way of course is to instal the hangers on the ledger before you mount the ledger to the wall. I think that Dan has already made his mounting holes though so he may not be able to instal all of the hangers before mounting the ledger. by the way Dan, there are double joist hangers just in case you didn't know that. The last time I built a deck was before hangers were commonly available. I assembled the joist structure on the ground by nailing through the rim joist then wrestled the beggar into place. I did not attach that one to the building though. When I built this addition I nailed the joists into place through the hangers and into the rim by directing the nails in on an angle. The thought was that this would help drive the joist end snug to the rim and hold it there. By nailing from both sides the spreading direction would theoretically make removal more difficult. Don't know why that should matter really but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loren buntemeyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] How to Install Joist Hangers for a Deck >I would install the joist hangers on the joist before the ledger. It is > hard nailing a bracket to a joist in mid air. When you nail the bracket > to > the ledger it's solid. This also allows you to make the floor edge of the > joist all even > with a tight string line. > Loren > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:51 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] How to Install Joist Hangers for a Deck > > > For the blind I recommend measuring and cutting some spacers. They should > be > clearly identified so sighted people and blind ones too don't throw them > away. > > These spacers should be cut the length of the distance between joists on > 16 > inch centers. In theory this should be 14 and a half inches but in my > experience it is usually closer to 14 and a quarter. When using joist > hangers it may be necessary to allow a little for them too and I have > found > it useful to double check and allow for a little drift particularly where > spacing is more critical such as behind 4 by 8 sheets, I think it may be > because dimensional lumber isn't all that precise. > > It can be helpful to attach a longer piece like a length of 2 by 4 to one > edge so the spacer can be hung on the ledger or edge joist for easier > positioning. Make one for each end it is a bit like having another pair of > hands when aligning your joists. They also help a lot in keeping joists > vertical and if necessary to persuade a certain amount of twist out of > less > than fully dry timber. > > TIP: Don't jam the spacer in too tight it can be a bear to get out. > > TIP: 2 by 4 spacers can be useful in exactly the same way for > constructing > walls and occasionally get left behind and difficult for the blind to > locate > once the wall is erected. > > TIP: It can be useful to very precisely cut a length of strapping exactly > 4 > feet long for verifying accurate centers particularly for walls where > sheeting will be installed. Be aware that sighted helpers also find 4 foot > lengths useful for scrap or temporary braces so they tend to disappear. > > Remember that the first member is not always 16 inches on center but 16 > inches center from the edge, actually 15 and a quarter to center. This > need > not be true in deck construction where 4 foot panels are to be installed > but > it does become important when installing things like siding or drywall. > > Often a series of templates will prove to be more durable than braille > measuring devices on the building site always supposing they remain > locatable. Folding carpenters rulers seem to find themselves under boots > or > knees. > > I also like to instal a series of spacers between the joists part way > along > their span. This substantially stiffens up the structure at very little > cost. Traditionally 'X' braces are used but I am a little too lazy for > that > and it requires much more precision > > Hopefully you will find some small pearls in this Dan. > > > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype DaleLeavens > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Boyce, Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:54 PM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How to Install Joist Hangers for a Deck > > >> Hi >> Joist hangers, metal fasteners that attach joists to ledger boards, are >> inexpensive and can save you time when you're building your deck. >> >> Steps: >> 1. >> Mark where each joist will be placed on the ledger board, starting at the >> outside corner. (Joists should be spaced on 16-inch centers.) >> >> 2. >> Transfer markings to the beam using a storyboard. 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