Hi All, If I can weigh in here for a minute.
I thought Mickey's post was done well, and I didn't think there was anything wrong with it. I just don't think that Mickey was necessarily thinking about the over 200 members on the list, and the fact that some of them, whether it be a small portion or large portion of our members, have usable sight, such as Don Shaw, or Boop, and for a time, before I went completely dark, I had some usable vision, as well, so Ray's posts do have merit, whether they be from a blind or sighted perspective. There have been many different opinions on this subject, some agreed with Mickey, and some did not, in any case, it is not up to a regular member on the list to decide where the list goes, it is up to the list owner and moderator. If you have problems with how the list is being run, or the direction that it is taking, feel free to write the owner or moderator. I mean, Jesus, there are, I think, something like four or five moderators, and I'm sure you get along with, at least, one of them. Another point is that these problems should be discussed off-list, not on list. When the necessary changes are to be implemented, and or if the owner and moderators feel that a consensus is needed from list members, then the subject should be broached on-list, otherwise, comments on list practises and allowances should be kept off-list. Lastly, there is one suggestion I would have for Ray, and that is, he should include the original website address with his posts, this serves two purposes... First, it allows the reader to check it's legitimacy, and accuracy, and allows for added ability of the reader to add the website to their favourites list. Secondly, it allows for the reader to go onto the website and check out if there's more stuff the reader might want to glean from it. I know of such posts that Ray has submitted where the information was, in a way what I was looking for, but had just the right amount off as to be useless to me, however, I wanted to go to the website to see if there might have been an addendum to the article that would've included that subtle difference that would have adapted the article to suit me. In any case, these suggestions have allowed the groups that I moderate to work alright, and I offer these ideas as suggestions for possible application. Victor Gouveia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/