I had a similar experience back in about 1975 at our local high school. The instructor was being paid to run a class on behalf of the Community College out of Timmins only back then there was no question about signing a waver. There was a lot of conversation going on behind my back I didn't know about and some sort of arrangement made that did not include me in any of the negotiations, when it was put to me it was pretty well an ultimatum. That is the short version it is a much longer story including that at the time I was providing treatment for a highschool student of that same teacher for fingers amputated by the table saw in that very shop. Obviously everyone had an emotional stake in the event, in the end I had to drop it or the instructor would refuse to run the class and that was no way for me to make friends in a small town of around 4,000 at the time.
To this day it has left me with a certain truth, sighted people cut fingers off and step in front of automobiles and fall out of buildings and all sorts of things. Is it reasonable to demand that we, as blind persons must exceed their performance standards? Janet and I are more likely to be injured as pedestrians just because we walk a lot, law of averages! That is independent of any other variables. In the end it always comes down to the attitude of inclusion, it is there or it is not. We cannot prove anything to anyone unwilling to be taught. Of course that teacher didn't want me to cut any fingers off and neither did I. The very fact that it already happened to someone in his class and under his supervision did not make it apply to me, he was a fifteen year old kid! I did have to concede one point, that moving about I might put others at risk, maybe bumping into a board sticking out from a machine, something like that. I don't know how to argue a point like that but in the end it wasn't about good or poor arguments. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Blind Handyman" <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] ideal tool and equipment shop > Lee, > > Guess what, this mystical shop of which you speak, does exist. It is > called your local community college. > > granted, they gave me some shit when I signed up for a wood working class > back in the spring. I jumped through their stupid hoops and signed a > waiver, but we had full access to a high school shop with lots of tools I > don't have, and don't have room for. > > The only thing that I didn't like was that I thought I was paying for a > class to learn about wood working, but what I got was access to a shop and > a guy who would answer your questions if you could get his attention away > from the one cute girl in the class. I gave up after a couple of weeks. > But others may have a better experience if their local community college > has a class. > > Later. > > -- > Blue skies. > Dan Rossi > Carnegie Mellon University. > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel: (412) 268-9081 > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From > Various List Members At The Following Address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ > Visit the new archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 > To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
