here is the problem
it is a single zone system and there is no perging valve as you described 
there is only a spicket to drain the entire system
i have tried opening all the bleeder valves on the cast radiators  and had 
several people sitting there with buckets to catch all the water but no luck
i always thought the air would rise to the highest point but it seems like 
this thought is wrong
this is a home i had purchased a few months ago and have been fixing things 
as i go now the heating season is here and can not figure out this air bound 
problem
can anyone tell me if there is such a thing as a self piercing bleeder valve 
i can hook up to the copper baseboard to enable me to bleed the air
this is only going to be a temp. fix because i am changing the heating 
system in the next few months and will be adding zones when the change is 
made
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] removing air from heating system


> Mark,
>
> What you are describing is a close system. If you look above the pump you
> will feel the feed  for your water system from the water supply, just 
> above
> that you will feel a 1 1/4 inch shut off valve. Turn it off.  just above 
> the
> turn off valve you will see a faucet connected to the same return line.  I
> don't know how many loops you have in your house, I have three. If I want 
> to
> bleed one of the three zones, I will block the two I don't want to bleed 
> and
> leave the one open I am bleeding the air out of. In my case it is as 
> simple
> as turning down the two thermostats controlling the two zones I don't want
> to bleed. Once the zones are blocked and the zone you wish to bleed is 
> open,
> turn on the faucet and force the air out of that zone.
>
> Hope I made myself clear. Any further questions, please ask.
> RJ
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:24 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] removing air from heating system
>
>
>> hey gang
>> new member here
>> i have a oil burning system which uses hot water to heat the house
>> the problem is the first floor has copper baseboard
>> and thesecond has cast iron radiators
>> here is the problem the system has air in it and only some of the system
> is giving heat the main problem is the copper baseboard has no bleeder
> valves or purging valves and the cast iron has the bleeders wich i can get
> some air out of how can i
>> for the air from down stairs to the second floor so i can get it out  the
> system has a non adjustable presure valve for feeding the water and will 
> not
> allow no more preasure to be added unless the air is removed  any thoughts
> thanks  mark
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