Max, I got around the space problem by buying a job site table saw. I wheel it outside, set it up, do my sawing, fold it up and wheel it back into my shed when I'm done. I do as much of my work outside to save my wife clean up time. Working outside allows me to maneuver long pieces without worry of restricted movement in my shed. So, when I think of any more stuff for my shed, it has to fold to save space. My router table folds as well. I'm thinking of making an outside work bench that will fold up, too. I saw some folding table legs at Harbor Freight I have to check out.
earlier, Max Robinson, wrote: >Hi Dale. > >As I noted earlier I started cutting the wood for the radio desk yesterday. >I've never tackled something this big before so I am learning as I go. My >method of cutting straight lines works very well. First I figured out how >far the blade is from the edge of the bottom plate, not sure what to call >it, of the hand saw. I did that by clamping a piece of finished shelving >material to the sheet of ply wood in a place where the edge will be scrap. >I made a little cut and measured. It happens to be 3 and 31/32 inches. So >now all I have to do is clamp the shelving to the ply wood that distance >from where I make the cut. I use scraps of the same shelving on the other >side to prevent clamp marks on the good wood. I'm using burch plywood. I >use finished shelving because it is straight and very smooth and the saw >won't catch on any part of it. I have the sides and 3 shelves cut. One >more. The top shelf and main table top are to go. Wish me luck, so far so >good. I just opened the router and it didn't come with a starter bit. It >is a 2 and 1/4 horse power variable speed with collets, I think that's what >they are called, for 1/2 and 1/4 inch bits. I don't think I will ever have >a table saw and other fixed in place shop equipment, No room for them. I >would have to have another building put up. Sue and I built the storage >shed for our riding mower but we couldn't do that now. Old age is catching >up with us you know. Right now I move the mowers and wheel barrel out of >the shed and work in it. Who knows I may be singing a different tune a >year from now. I just might save up my pennies and have a workshop built. >There's no lack of space for it, we have a big lot. We are in the county so >not much in the way of building codes to contend with. This is a >libertarian, agricultural area. > >Regards. > >Max. K 4 O D S. > >Email: <mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Transistor site ><http://www.funwithtransistors.net>http://www.funwithtransistors.net >Vacuum tube site: <http://www.funwithtubes.net>http://www.funwithtubes.net >Music site: <http://www.maxsmusicplace.com>http://www.maxsmusicplace.com > >To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, ><mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dale Leavens" <<mailto:dleavens%40puc.net>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 8:52 AM >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] A router for Christmas. > > > Hi Max, > > > > You will find a router to be a very useful and quite versatile woodworking > > tool. There are many who believe it to be the superior way to cut dados, > > certainly they can do a very good job, particularly cutting blind dados > > and > > sliding dovetails. I am not sure I always agree, I really like a dado > > blade > > in my table saw for a lot of that work too, the table is larger and the > > rip > > fence makes set-up very quick but a router forms a perfectly flat bottomed > > groove although there are those who claim the double groove at each edge > > of > > a properly dado blade cut provides some space for the glue. > > > > If ever I have a problem with cutting dados with a router it is only in > > keeping it tracking absolutely straight. There are many ways of > > accomplishing that, the most important is moving in the direction of the > > cutter. When cutting a dado one side of the cutter is moving against the > > direction of the cut while the other edge is moving in the other > > direction. > > The point is that you are pushing the cutter against the direction of the > > cut so it tends not to pull the router along and therefor out of control. > > > > I prefer to use guide bushings inserted into the router base just because > > it > > is easier to get the cut positioned. The collar is like a short tube > > projecting below the baseplate through which your bit protrudes. If you > > are > > cutting a three quarter dado you fit a collar a little better than three > > quarters inside diameter the outside diameter will probably be 14 16ths so > > you can clamp a straight piece of quarter inch or half inch plywood within > > a > > sixteenth of an inch from the true location of the dado and set the router > > on that guide and follow the edge with the collar. > > > > The other way to do it is to include the width of the router base divided > > by > > two and minus half the diameter of the bit and clamp your straight edge > > there. I have done this many times too but getting the location exact can > > be > > a little frustrating. For example, if the dado is to be 3 quarters of an > > inch and the router base is 7 inches in diameter then you will offset the > > straight edge guide half the diameter of the base = 3.5 inches minus half > > the diameter of the router bit which is 3 8ths so you will place the > > straight edge three and one eighth inches from the desired edge of the > > dado. > > If you want a stopped dado say three quarters from the edge of your board > > that all gets a lot harder but much easier using a collar. > > > > I have made up templates for cutting the stringers for stairs and cut them > > with a router. > > This is the only way to go in my view. > > > > If you will be doing any amount of wood working you will also soon want a > > router table. > > > > I now have three routers, a monster plunge router from Australia, a > > 'D'-handled one from sears and a nice little porter-Cab;e. They all have > > their strengths and weaknesses. Just now the sears is mounted in a router > > table and I had to remove a handle to get it there, it isn't my favorite. > > I > > really like the little Porter-Cable it seems to take all my collars and > > such > > but requires two wrenches to remove the bits and the switch is a toggle > > switch, not ideal. > > > > The big Triton is a variable speed with two position plunge but, as it > > stands I don't see how to instal collars, it is big and heavy and the > > switch, though very safe is difficult to manipulate. It is behind a > > sliding > > door, you slide the door then press the rocker switch with your thumb. > > when > > you press it off the door springs over it so you cannot accidentally turn > > it > > on but believe me, deliberately turning it on is something of a > > production. > > It does come with a very nice combination circle guide and a fence out to > > about 7 inches which is easily attached and removed and wonderful for > > cutting dados out to that distance. It is a pretty expensive router and > > very > > powerful. > > > > I would like a really small one for trimming and such and maybe a small > > plunge router but I can't imagine Janet allowing me five or six of them. I > > have destroyed a cheap Black & Decker router and a rather valuable Sears > > electronic variable speed router over the past 25 years or so. > > > > Yesterday I began cutting plywood in preparation for building a router > > table > > of more decent size. I began recording bits of the process however the > > recorder I have isn't doing a wonderful job, I have another better one and > > will get some batteries for it today and maybe a cheap separate mike. I > > sent > > the last mike I had to my daughter for her Skype. As I began cutting up > > the > > plywood I discovered it to be warped, maybe because it has been standing > > in > > my shed too long, I will probably use a router to cut the dados in that > > because it will sit flatter on the panels than I will get with my table > > saw, > > the saw though will permit much more rapid set-up. > > > > Do have fun with your new router and if I can be of any help just let me > > know. > > > > > > > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada > > <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Skype DaleLeavens > > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Max Robinson" > <<mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Blind Handyman" > <<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:26 AM > > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] A router for Christmas. > > > > > >> Hi all. Sue gave me a Ridgid router for Christmas. I used the article > >> about > >> routers to pick it out but now I would like some hints, dos and don'ts of > >> using it. The radio desk has been started. I intend to use the router > >> to > >> make the dados. > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> Max. 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