Trouble with customs is that you never know. I suppose there is a way to 
estimate, there is a Web site with classifications of equipment but it depends 
if the customs agent classifies say as cooking equipment, electronic device, 
maybe scientific or calibration equipment, I am making this up obviously but 
there isn't any real milage in arguing, you pay first then appeal.

I think I can buy from Barnes and Noble but still have the exchange and the 
shipping and the customs. I suspect I will get one from Ebay eventually. Even 
there there is some issue, seems there are two models, the AW 129 and the newer 
AW 131. What I do know is that the AW 129 has had a couple of criticisms that 
the probe is fragile in the presence of high temperatures. Don't know that the 
AW 131 is not but I haven't seen any criticism of it. The Ebay listings don't 
always show the model.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Rusk 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 3:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Smoking update


  Do you have access to Barnes n Noble up there? I know they offer it online 
for $53.plus, and less if you join their membership.
  Does Canada add much for customs?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 7:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Smoking update

  OK,

  Thanks.

  I am trying to get my hands on one of the Oregon Scientific ones but can't 
order it from Amazon.com and they don't carry it on Amazon.ca and in addition 
to the price there is customs. I am trying to chase one down on Ebay but so far 
they aren't any cheaper than Amazon and when you add in the shipping 
significantly more expensive. I can't seem to find a Canadian supplier.

  Later this month I expect to go south maybe to Sarnia, might be able to get 
one in Point Edwards Michigan.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Rusk 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Smoking update

  I got it a couple years ago at Radio Shack, think it cost about $20.00.
  It has meat selections for beef, turkey, lamb, I think chicken. For beef you 
can select rare, medium rare, medium and well done. If I understand the various 
doneness have temperatures to match.
  The first time I used it I cooked steaks and when they got to the proper 
temperature it beeped. We hadn't used it for a while as I actually forgot about 
it I used my old timing method, so we weren't sure if it worked or not. The 
wife thinks it should show current temperature but it didn't so maybe it isn't 
working right. The batteries checked okay in the units so I don't know if she 
is right or not.
  It consists of a probe that you stick in the meat, with is connected by wire 
to a little round unit that you set on the table close to the grill. 
  The round unit has a power button and a light that flashes and it uses two 
triple A batteries . Then there is the unit that clips on your belt and sounds 
an audible alarm when the temperature reaches the desired level. It has two 
buttons, a power button and the selection button. The selection button rocks up 
and down or side to side for making the selection. It uses double A batteries. 
  This unit has a screen on it too, and it is not really blind friendly when it 
comes to settings, but we thought it would be nice for me as it has the beeps 
that are supposed to let you know within five minutes or so when the meat is 
about ready, when it is ready and after it is past ready.
  I think the one from Oregon Scientific sounds like a better deal for us blind 
folks.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Smoking update

  Could you tell us a little more about that audible thermometer? I haven't 
seen that one.

  Thanks.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Rusk 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:48 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Smoking update

  Well, yesterday was the American celebration and the wife and I decided to 
smoke, so she lit a cigarette and I lit my pipe, no seriously, I fired up the 
smoker and she ran to the store and brought home a nice sized pork roast and 
some chops. When we put the meat on the temperature was about 300, but we 
figured it would cool down. About half an hour later we checked the meat, 
turned the chops and moved the roast further from the heat and we were running 
about 250.
  We tested the chops after about another 45 minutes, deemed them edible and 
took them off. They were delicious.
  We left the roast as I had read on one of the barbecue sites that we should 
allow about an hour and a half per pouund and the roast was about 6 pounds, so 
we knew we had to wait a while. I was able to keep the fire going and the 
temperature stayed right where we wanted it.
  I was disappointed that my audible thermometer, which I purchased at Radio 
Shack a couple years ago wasn't sounding the alarm. Finally she used her 
regular meat thermometer and checked the meat, it was about 170, which we 
thought should cause the audible thermometer to beep. I had read in the Texas 
Rub newsletter that pork roasst should register about 195 so we left the roast 
in. Also my temperature on the smoker had dropped below 200, so I added some 
coal and we left it cooking. 
  As the wife had to rest up to return to work, we checked the meat about an 
hour later and the temp was up to 185, so we pulled it and figure we will 
finish it up in the oven today.
  Now for die hard smokers, they would probably have waited it out, but for us, 
the chops were wonderful and if we can finish off the roast in the oven today, 
we sure the thing will have a good smoked flavor and we know to start a little 
earlier next time.
  All in all, I didn't suffer any injuries, still have a lot to learn about the 
art, but I am willing to keep practicing.
  We also figured out that the audible thermometer only allows us to make 
changes to the settings on beef and lamb as it showed turkey, pork and 
hamburgers setting for well done, so maybe the roast wasn't well done, hmm!
  Maybe, Jenifer should get a smoker and fire it up regularly to chase away 
mosquitoes, I don't think they like smoke, smile!

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