Spiro, this is where a guy in a tree locks the throttle on his saw, grabs the starter cord and drops the unit.
Bill Stephan Kansas City, MO (816)803-2469 William Stephan -----Original Message----- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 12/20/07 2:27:01 PM To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] My 2 cents about safety what is the drop saw method in the movies? What is missing in it's mechanics for safety? On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, William Stephan wrote: > When I was in the equipment leasing/rental business, for a while I was the > guy who demonstrated the use of chainsaws to the folks we had as customers. > I had thought originally that being blind might have distracted them from > the safety stuff I was saying, but everyone I asked said it really stuck > with them after seeing me start and use a saw. Most of the first-time users > were all set to do the old drop-start the way they saw linesmen and timber > cutters do it in the movies, and disabusing them of that probably really did > keep some injuries from happening. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Dale Leavens > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 11:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] My 2 cents about safety > > > > There is also the numbers angle. While anyone could run over a can of gas > with a snow blower the likelihood of a sighted person doing it is much less. > > I wouldn't suggest for a moment that the blind wouldn't or shouldn't have > accidents neither would I suggest that sighted people on the whole are > usually good judges of where all the dangers lay or which are the more > significant ones. > > with sighted people cutting fingers off every day it is unrealistic to > assume no blind person will ever cut off a finger, that would be expecting a > standard of function above that of sighted persons. While this may often be > true it is nevertheless an unrealistic expectation. I am betting that per > pedestrian mile walked blind people are less frequently hit by cars than > sighted people, I would love to see someone collect statistics on that. We > may well actually be safer on foot than sighted people and we may, in > general be safer with chain saws or other tools than sighted people. > Certainly I have never heard of a blind person killed in an industrial > accident the numbers must be very small but then the numbers of blind > persons working in industry are way too damn small. > > I well remember an argument with an insurance salesman when I was purchasing > business insurance many many years ago. I wanted a premium discount since I > had to sign a waver that I could not claim blindness as a work limiting > disability. I felt since that was a potentially very expensive claim they > would never face it limited their liability and I should get a discount for > that. > > He tried to tell me that my chances of a work disabling injury were greater > since I was blind. I countered that I wasn't so sure of that, I hardly ever > flew an aeroplane or drove a car or played football or hockey or drove drunk > or any number of other high risk activities sighted people commonly engaged > in. > > I didn't earn my discount of course but it did make me think about this sort > of thing quite a bit. > > Sometimes the injuries we might receive have a bigger impact than they might > to a sighted person. I truly don't want to damage my hearing and I fear I > have neglected it a little over the years. I really need my fingers too. Of > course there is Dennis Brown who was a sighted guy when military ordinance > blew off his hands, the lower half of his face, destroyed something like 80% > of his hearing and blinded him. I wonder if as a blind person now people > would tell him not to fiddle with such dangerous equipment? Probably though > it didn't bother the military when he could see. > > Just some thoughts to thicken the soup. > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> net > Skype DaleLeavens > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: RJ > To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:44 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] My 2 cents about safety > > It sounds like the doctor that ask to see my thumb a few days after I tried > to cut it off with a hand ax while splitting wood. He asked how in the hell > did you do that? I told him with a ax. He went on and on how a blind person > shouldn't be using tools that are dangerous. I calmly ask him how many blind > persons verses sighted people he sees that cut off a finger or two, and bet > him there were more sighted persons than blind persons that come to him for > this reason. He gave in by telling me after thirty years dealing with me, he > should have known better than try to talk sense into my head. By the way, > the thumb did heal without medical intervention, which did amazed the > doctor. And if the truth was known, it also amazed me. > RJ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: robert moore > To: Blind Handyman > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 18:44 > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] My 2 cents about safety > > I am not an authority on safety but this is my 2 cents worth. Concerning > chainsaws or any other potentially dangerous piece of equipment. Lets start > with the assumption you know the proper use and technique for the tool. The > bottom line as it relates to blind VS sighted is this. > If any one gets hurt it is the same for sighted or blind alike. I think > there are 3 root causes for any injury. First you are doing some thing > stupid and or not paying attention. > Second the element of the unknown, such as a piece of mettle in the wood > that is completely concealed. Making it impossible for the sighted and blind > alike to know it is there. > And finally equipment failure. Even if the tool appears to be in working > condition there is always the unexpected failure that cannot be anticipated. > If any one wants to take issue or add to any of these points, please do. I > am very safety conscious and any further comments on this topic I will not > take offence to. > Thanks for letting me rant. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
