I've only tried one in the store and my experience was that in order to get a good leg stretch, I had to have the seat up high enough that I was bent over at a weird angle resulting in a sore lower back. If they had adjustable handlebars it would have been great.
-----Original Message----- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Schwery Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 5:54 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms What do you guys think of the Schwinn Airdyne for an exercise bike, as compared to other bikes? earlier, Little Freak, wrote: >True , its not for building massive bulk of muscles, for that you will >need free weights. > > >thanks, Little Freak([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >-----Original Message----- >From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:38 PM >To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms > >I tried one of those total Gym things and even with it set at its >highest incline it was way to easy. I was hoping that over the years >something had evolved that might replace free weights but obviously >nothing has so it is off to the local sporting goods store to invest in >an Olympic weight set, a half dozen pares of dumbbells and a basic >heavy duty bench. I can rig a pull-up bar in one end of the shop where >I can do pull-ups, chins, hanging leg raises and hanging crunches. > >-----Original Message----- >From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:24 PM >To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms > >Chuck Norris still looks pretty good for a guy in his 60s but I'd put a >paycheck on the fact that little gym he advertises isn't all he does in >a day. > >I did personal training in college with stroke victims. The only good >thing I could find about a machine was they didn't have to stabilize >the weight. Once you could assess their needs and how much spotting was >necessary everyone of my clients wanted to give up the machines. > >I would still like to find a good deal on a lat pull down machine but >beyond that I can't thing of a machine I'd want in the house. At least >not a workout machine... >----- Original Message ----- >From: Larry Stansifer >To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 6:15 PM >Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms > >Basically dale my workout consists of a daily four mile run and a one >body part per day workout. I do this on a rotating basis so that my >rest days never fall on the same days of the week. I usually work out >in the morning with an afternoon or evening run depending on my >schedule. I agree with you completely with respect to exercise >machines. They never seem to deliver as promised. > >-----Original Message----- >From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:06 PM >To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms > >Better is a relative term. > >Decide on your goals, what is your objective? Once you figure that out >you will better know what it is you need to achieve that. > >For cardio vascular aerobic exercise I have a Nordic Track cross >country ski machine. It does take a little skill to get the hand of it >and not everyone likes that aspect of it but it doesn't take long to >get up a good sweat and keep it. On the other hand I don't much like >those elliptical trainers, they are like walking on the moon bobbing up >and down like that but many people really like them. > >The trouble with free weights is the room they need, fortunately for me >I suppose I am short enough that I can snatch without driving them >through the ceiling but not everyone can. > >None of the mechanical weight circuits accurately reflect the weight >being used. You can pin any number to the stack but most use pulleys >not only to change direction but often they loop in such a way to give >mechanical advantage, that is, pull three feet on the cable and the >weight rises a foot and a half, that sort of thing. There is also the >inertia of the machine to take into account and friction of moving >parts too. Many also use cams to try to equalize the force or direction >so that the resistance is closer to the actual direction of the work >but these too alter the actual amount of weight being moved. In that >sense free weights are the only really accurate and reliable measure of >resistance. Even though you can technically calculate and allow for >mechanical disadvantage or advantage as the case may be I can assure >you having hung actual weight from a number of weight training machines >that there isn't any reliable relationship between the weight load on >the stack and ! the actual balancing load on the handle. this isn't >necessarily true for all units but I haven't yet met one with an >accurate relationship. > >The point of those machines is to save room. If the bands on a Bowflex >or what ever else are calibrated in pounds or dirometers is not >relevant. They should probably be calibrated just as the stereo,. Just >a number so you can return to the same one dependably when you want. > >It seems to me that most of us as blind people want the aerobic >exercise, the cardiopulmonary work-out. Some may ride a tandem bike but >mostly we lack that opportunity, even a brisk walk isn't really all >that satisfying because of the energy used in wayfinding and avoiding >overhanging trees or parked cars. Running a dog I suppose for some >might be an option and maybe some do that I haven't ever seen it but it >is possible.There are treadmills and ski machines and elliptical >trainers and exercise cycles. Swimming if convenient and you have >access to a long enough pool for some good lengths can be a pretty good >option. I used to enjoy cross country skiing but it does require a >partner and that isn't always convenient for me, either I am busy or >they are busy and eventually it falls apart. Used to ride a tandem bike >too but the same problem. I haven't been working out in my exercise >room much for a long time, by the time I finish work and now am in the >middle of a couple of sho! p projects then there is snow to shovel and >in the summer gardening and grass to cut and on it goes. Hooking up >with someone for a bike ride or a ski, it just doesn't happen. > >Anyway, the point I wanted to make is that one shouldn't get too >fixated on the weights displayed either on the pulley circuits or the >band type machines or even those hydraulic pistons. Do consider the >structure of the equipment, noise, things like size and durability. If >it isn't convenient you won't use it and if it isn't comfortable you >won't use it. If it folds up and fits under your bed that is probably >where it will stay. > >These are just my observations over what is now approaching 40 years of >personal experience and observation of literally thousands of others. > >Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada >[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> Skype DaleLeavens Come and >meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Larry Stansifer >To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:48 PM >Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms > >I use free weights a lot in the gym and was actually considering buying >a bench based system that includes a squott station, leg curl and quad >curl station but when I tried it out in the store it felt really flimsy >and like it wanted to come apart and that was just using the 110 LB >included weight set. Most of that stuff looks like toys to me. A couple >of guys on Carol's department have bowflexes but like the soloflex they >make you look better than you really are. > >-----Original Message----- >From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:22 AM >To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms > >I have free weights so I'm probably no help. I don't know if they still >make it or not, but I can say beware of the soloflex gym. That was the >one with "resistance bands." A friend bought one and I could bench the >highest resistance band which said it was 500 pounds. Great for the ego >but not realistic. At that time I could do half that weight on a good >day. Maybe someone else will have a better recommendation. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Larry Stansifer >To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:05 PM >Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms > >This morning while slaving away on the squat-rack in my local gym, one >of the girls on the front desk told me that they were moving to a >larger facility on the other side of town. Much to far to walk besides >which interstate15 is in the way. Do any of you folks have any >suggestions for a home gym alternative? 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