Here is a link in case anyone is interested in working with copper pipes 
without having to fire up the torch...  You will probably have to copy and 
paste the link as it is huge but  I copied and pasted it in my browser and it 
works.


https://commerce.vertex.net/justforcopper/product_detail.asp?
sku=HSB001&catID=&sID=F236N391N41X8GNEL5F0XU4RHE1587G2

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