Hi Max and all:
Well, a friend of mine bought a new house a couple of years ago, and on two
of the internal doors the pilot hole had been so deep in the upper hinges
that they were only hanging in on a wing and a prayer!
He was unaware of this apart from the door not shutting properly and also
catching on the carpet.
David W Wood
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Max Robinson
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 5:13 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] But hinges vs strap hinges.
Hi Dale. I have a collar for my router and I have seen how Norm makes the
plywood templates for cutting the mortis for a but hinge. It is true that
the mortis will take the vertical component of force but a heavy door is
going to have torque on it from it's center of mass being some distance from
the hinges. I have seen doors in which the screws that hold the upper
hinges have pulled out.
Regards.
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From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] But hinges vs strap hinges.
>I believe those are called 'T' hinges.
>
> The beauty of a but hinge is that it is countersunk into the edge of the
> door and the edge of the frame so much of the weight is born by that
> mechanical fixation and not the screws at all.
>
> It is usual to drive a long screw from at least one hole in the top and
> bottom hinge right through the frame and into the building framing member.
> a two or three inch long screw. Often you will have shimmed the door frame
> vertical, do it at the hinge point and drive the longer screw through the
> shims into the building framing member to secure the door frame and the
> hinge vertical.
>
> They make hinge routing templates to use with a router. I have never owned
> one but I have made my own templates for routing a very accurate cut-out
> for the hinge. It makes locating them on the frame and the door more
> accurate as well.
>
> If you get a hinge template kit I would be very interested in hearing how
> you get along with it and how you like it.
>
> Those little trim routers are ideal for the job and I have seen Norm and
> Tom Silver use battery powered routers too. Although I have two routers I
> don't own either type. I would like to add both to my collection.
>
> T hinges and strap hinges do depend on the sheering force of the screws
> however the forces on them can easily slightly twist or bend them in my
> albeit limited experience. For some reason too, I find it difficult to
> center their pivot point consistently along the edge of the door and when
> you don't get it exactly right, the door doesn't work well.None of them
> seem to work well for long, even the ones someone else installs.Maybe the
> screws move sideways a little, I don't know. Obviously they are popular
> choices for a lot of people, there must be a reason for that.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Max Robinson
> To: Blind Handyman
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 8:30 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] But hinges vs strap hinges.
>
>
> I've been thinking about this question of hinges for the doors to my
> shop.
> A standard but hinge has the counter sinks drilled so the plates of the
> hinge are between the two surfaces of the door and the frame as they come
> together. On a heavy door the screws in the top and center hinge are in
> tension which is usually not recommended.
>
> On a strap hinge which is mounted on the outside surface of the door and
> frame the screws are mostly in sheer which is the condition in which they
> are strongest. The hinges that were supplied with the lawn mower house
> kit
> and those used on the 3 foot wide shop built doors on the teddybear
> cottage
> are a kind of hybrid type looking like a strap hinge on one side of the
> pivot and a but hinge on the other. These are surface mounted like a
> strap
> hinge.
>
> Regards.
>
> Max. K 4 O D S.
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