Damn dude, I'd just have to say the hell with it and move.
On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Dan Rossi wrote:

> Yes, I am a big wuss. I am a balding, hairy backed, little girl in  
> knee
> socks.
>
> Here is the deal. I am finally going to build the landings and  
> stairs for
> my deck. There will be an upper landing at the level of the deck,  
> and a
> lower landing with three steps leading down to the yard. The lower
> landing will have steps going down from two adjacent sides. The third
> side will obviously have the stairs going up to the upper landing.  
> and,
> the forth side will just have a railing along the edge.
>
> There will be two posts holding up the outer edge of the upper  
> landing,
> and the inner edge will be bolted to the rim joist of the deck. The  
> lower
> landing will have four posts.
>
> I have to pour footers for each of these six posts. Around here, rules
> are that footers have to be 36 inches deep. Well, when I dug the  
> footers
> for the deck, after 36 inches we were still bringing up top soil and  
> a bit
> of gravel. No clay, no big rocks, no sand and certainly no bedrock.  
> So,
> we put the extention bar on the power auger and went another 18 inches
> down. We only just started hitting clay and rock at the 54 inch deep
> level.
>
> Those holes were 12 inches in diameter and they sucked up about 7 80  
> pound
> bags of cement each.
>
> These landing footers will only be 8 inches in diameter but will most
> likely still go 54 inches deep, plus a little above grade. Each hole  
> will
> take a bit more than 3 80 pound bags to fill, a total of about 20 80  
> pound
> bags.
>
> I'll will now describe where I live for those of you who haven't  
> heard my
> rantings before. For those of you who have, just ignore me as usual.
>
> From the street you have to walk up 10 steps, then there is a little 2
> foot landing. Then you go up another 10 steps. Then there is a 60 foot
> long landing. Then up another 10 steps, 2 foot landing, 10 steps, 5  
> foot
> landing, three more steps. OK, you are almost there. You are now at  
> one
> end of a courtyard. I, of course, live at the far end of the  
> courtyard.
> So, walk about 170 feet down the courtyard trying to stay on the  
> sidewalk
> without kicking over the little mushroom lights or flowers along the
> edges. Now turn left and go around the side of my house, through a  
> gate,
> and into the yard. Now imagine humping 80 pound bags of cement along
> that whole thing.
>
> Rather than do all 20 bags in one day, I decided we would do 4 bags  
> per
> evening, each night of this week.
>
> When we got to Lowes last night, and were looking at the bags of  
> concrete,
> I just couldn't face it. I did not want to hump those 80 pound bags up
> all those damn stairs and along the courtyard. So, I noticed that  
> next to
> the 80 pound bags were these nice 40 pound bags of cement. Sure, it  
> would
> cost a bit more money, on the order of 20 or 25 bucks more, and  
> require
> twice as many trips, but 40 pound trips are sooo much better than 80  
> pound
> trips. I caved. Yep, I admit it, I am a girly man. I slung 8 40 pound
> bags onto the cart, loaded them into the trunk of our car, and since
> Teresa insists on helping, we unloaded the bags at home. I ran the  
> bags
> up to the long landing. Teresa took them from there to the house. She
> had the longer distance so I unloaded the bags faster than she could  
> bring
> them up to the house, so I hauled them from the landing to the top  
> of the
> stairs and she moved them from there to the house on a dolly. It  
> actually
> only took a few minutes, but was so much less painful than those 80
> pounders. One night down, four more to go.
>
> Hopefully, we'll get the footers dug and poured this weekend. I'll let
> the list know how it goes.
>
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> E-Mail:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel:  (412) 268-9081
>
> 

Scott Howell
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