If you have to add power steering fluid, once again mopar has their own special crap to add. I do believe it is the same ATF+4 that they use in their transmissions. Michael
_____ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:45 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] antifreeze leak Great suggestions, I will check these things. Thanks Don --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Bob Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:bobken54%40bellsouth.net> net> wrote: From: Bob Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:bobken54%40bellsouth.net> net> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] antifreeze leak To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:44 AM If it is the pump it should make a bit more noise when you turn the wheel. You don't even have to be moving to try this. Another couple of ideas are possibly the transmission filter being somewhat plugged or low fluid. That is a low rating on the look for list but a possibility. The other thing I've heard do that is the timing belt. At this time of year belts get a bit stiff sitting out in the cold and a timing belt can whine when starting the engine and it will go away as it warms up and becomes more flexible. I'd try the pump first. Just see if it makes a different sound when you turn the wheel. Don't turn it full to the locks because that makes the pump work extra hard and it will definitely change pitch at that point... Just a nice big swerve in each direction to see how the sound is effected. If that is the sound you're hearing, then check the power steering fluid level next. ----- Original Message ----- From: Don To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] antifreeze leak That is really what I am afraid it might be is the power steering pump. It's just strange how it quits, making noise when it warms up. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Kennedy To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] antifreeze leak Have to listen to which end of the engine the noise is coming from. All the belts are on the passenger side and the transmission is on the driver side. It could be the power steering pump if it sounds like the transmission noise. They sound similar. ----- Original Message ----- From: Don To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] antifreeze leak Our 05 caravan, is making a wining sound, only when it is kind of cold, hear it when you are nearly stopped, like when the transmission goes in to low gear. you hear again when you take off, strange, after every thing is hot, it quits. something probably getting ready to go out. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 6:31 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] antifreeze leak I just did a serpentine belt on a 07 Caravan this weekend for my banana bread connection and that damn thing was a royal pain. I worked on that stupid stocker for 2.5 hours and had to build a special tool to release the belt tensioner. It's a good thing this 78 year old specializes in banana nut bread because she could have never afforded me otherwise. -----Original Message----- From: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:06 PM To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] antifreeze leak It's a big job, the timing belt has to come off to get to the water pump. Usually there is a sign of some sort to tell if the pump is getting ready to die. A special noise they make, or some dripping. Not likely the dealership pumped it up to 30 pounds and blew the seal around the pump shaft. Remember part of that price is that high dollar anti freeze too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenny McHugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] net> To: "handyman-blind" <blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:10 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] antifreeze leak > Just got a ride home from the car dealership. A few months ago I had > the coolant changed. The other day I turned the rear heat on in the > van and shortly after there was no heat in the front. The temp gage in > the van stayed at the normal position. I assumed that there was an air > lock in the rear heater that caused the fluid level to drop. When > Karen came home from a Dr. appointment I noticed that the was little > heat coming out from under the hood. I waited about two hours until > everything was cold to open the radiator cap. > Karen could not see anything in the radiator. > We quickly drove it to the dealer so they could add some of that Mopar > Red. > Before they did that they pressure tested the system and all of the > remaining antifreeze is on the shop floor. 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