I didn't have contact with the JB; but it is a metal epoxy. But not all 
that tough, I was able to use acetone to wipe away a line that ran down 
one of the pipes.
Also, acetone will wash textured spray paint off of glass of a luver storm 
door.
T-top is too high, I'm gonna figure out which end is likely to be easier 
to cut. Wife says too high.





On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Lee A. Stone wrote:

>
> never heard of carbon cement and will be anxious to read comments on
> same. also tell me about using the J B Weld. is that like a toothpaste
> consistancy ? a job well done. maybe your neighbor is going to a
> program? Lee
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:17:28AM -0400,
> Spiro
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I just wanted to give the story of the completion of the clothes line pole
>> project.
>> If you remember, a rather "pickled" neighbor downed my clothes line pole.
>> It seems that sun is faster and cheaper than gas heated appliances and it
>> was a priority.
>> Well stability was the issue and I didn't want the next occurance to be
>> unnoticed at the auto body shop.
>> So here's what we got at Home Depot.
>>
>> What we needed:
>> 1 ft section 2-3/8 galvanized pipe
>> 1 2-1/4 ft of same.
>> 1 40 inch section of 2-1/4 o.D. galvanized pipe
>> 1 2ft section of 1-3/4 O.D. galvanized nipple
>> 1 bracket to hold horizontal member
>> 1 2ft 1 inch O.D. E.C.T.
>> 1 8ft (true) 1 inch X3 pressure treated board (rounded edges)
>> 1 unit of carbon added cement
>> 2 standard quick set cement
>> 1 can of cement colored, textured outdoor
>> spray paint
>> 2 chain link fence bolt through caps
>> 4 2.5 inch tapscrews
>> 2 2 inch stainless flair head wood screws
>> 2 1/4 inch wood threaded screws 3 inch long
>>
>> since the guy at HD told me I could buy by the foot, I was surprised when
>> he said his machine wouldn't cut the stock we chose.
>> So with hacksaws going, and my using my "passed" father in laws huge pipe
>> cutter, we got everything down to size
>> I remed and deburred all the pipes for smooth fit.
>>
>> We used a hammer drill with masonry chisel to make a 8X8 inch wide hole
>> and dug the cement and old pipe out. We dug a 16 inch hole. We banged
>> the  2ft pipe in to level.
>> We sunk the 2ft of 2-3/8 into the ground and filled it to the 14 inch or
>> 10 inch from the top, with cement.
>> We filled the hole around the pipe with this Carbon Added cement.
>> carbon  supposed to be stronger ? ?
>>   that surrounded that pipe to an inch from level. (I hope this carbon
>> additive  cement isn't snake oil).
>> We filled the 40 inch 2-1/4 inch  pipe with quick cement to the 30 inch
>> mark.
>> We put the 2-1/4 ft piece of 2-3/8 I.D around that
>> 40 inch 2-1/4 pipe and used JB Weld to hold it at the 10 inch mark and up
>> from there.
>> While that cured we sprayed the front of 2   3x5 inch pieces of the
>> treated wood after drilling for the tapscrews.
>> While that dried, we drilled the 30 inch header board for the close line
>> hooks. We removed those and sprayed the wood front.
>> We assembled the clamps that would hold the 1 inchcross piece to the
>> clothes line pole, drilling through the pole in a vice, through the
>> front and back hole to make them allign. We set the bolt through and
>> tightened it for fit.
>> We set the "caps"  onto the 1 inch pipe with more JB
>> weld.
>> We used the JB Weld to affix the 2ft piece of 1-5/8 I.D. ECT to the bottom
>> 2feet of the clothes line pole.
>> We broke for lunch.
>>
>> We sprayed the backs of the 3x5 inch blocks and set the screws and
>> tightened them to the wall wet.
>> We sprayed the fronts of the blocks.
>> the ground cement was getting dry, and the stuff in the socket was as
>> well.
>> We sprayed the back of the header board and set it wet to the blocks and
>> screwed it onto the blocks. We sprayed it all over again.
>> We set the 1 inch E.C.T. (electrical conduit tubing, I've heard called
>> Electrical metal tubing) into the clamp and sealed around the openings
>> with a bead of JB weld.
>> We put the line hooks into the header.
>> We swept up with the cement in the above ground pipes still curing.
>> We put an inch of quick set over the carbon added cement and let my kid
>> put her hand print and initial into it.
>> We fitted the pieces.
>>
>> 2-3/8 i.d. in the ground, filled with cement.
>> 2-1/4 o.d rises 30 inches above ground, is filled with 30 inches of
>> cement, and has outside sleeve of 2-3/8 galvanized epoxied to that..
>> 1-3/4 o.d. pipe has 1-1/2  o.d. clothes pole in that and slips into the 40
>> inch cement filled galvanized pipe.
>> 2 bolt through caps on 2 ft horizontal 1 inch pipe hold lines with hooks
>> on headers at other end.
>>
>> The blocks where to put the header across lines that run up the wall, the
>> single line had been previously tied to the fittings on the electrical
>> service box.
>>
>> So, it's cement and 1/4 wall thick to the height of a dodge Ram 2500 pick
>> up's bumper and totally quick to break down.
>>
>> Today, i find out that the "pickled" party who has damaged (now 4) fences
>> in the neighborhood, as well as my clothes pole; is moving away.
>> well, maybe I can put a hoop and back board on the other side to make it
>> all worth it. (grins)
>> anyone know anything about carbon cement?
>>
>
> -- 
> Force it!!!
> If it breaks, well, it wasn't working anyway...
> No, don't force it, get a bigger hammer.
> .
>

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