Hi have you thought of using a solvent like acetone [I don't know if that is
strong enough] in that way you would basically weld it together, I know that a
person can do that with certain types of plastic, otherwise simply sow it
together with thin nylon thread. Philip Theron
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----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Przybylek
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Gluing Nylon
Hi Dale,
What I'm trying to do is extend the latching part of a piece of siding to
give the piece of siding above it a little more lip to grip onto. I decided
to build the extension from nylon because I figured nylon would hold up in a
variety of weather and had reasonable strength for the job. The problem I'm
having is that I can't find a glue that will bond nylon to itself. Two
pieces of nylon need to be glued together to build the extension and the
extension then needs to be bonded to the siding.
The first thing I looked at was moving some of the siding up or down to take
up the slack in the one piece. Unfortunately. Two or three pieces below and
two or three pieces above would need to be moved to accomplish the task. As
I said in an earlier note, moving that much siding is far beyond my talents
and that's why I'm trying to build some sort of clip.
As far as silicone, I don't think it's practical in this situation. In one
spot, the existing lip needs to be extended about a quarter of an inch. I
think trying to use silicone for the purpose would just create a real mess.
Your idea, though, does give me a thought. I'm going to try bonding a piece
of nylon to a piece of vinyl siding with silicone. If it works, my design
can be modified so that I can solve the problem by sticking a piece of nylon
to the siding and eliminate the need for bonding nylon to itself. Worth a
shot.
There is no particular reason to pursue a solution using nylon other than
I've invested a chunk of change in the material and I'd like to use it if I
can. As I said in an earlier post, I am looking into other materials and
their gluing characteristics.
Take care,
Ed Przybylek
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On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 4:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Gluing Nylon
I haven't been following the nylon glue issue so I don't understand what
nylon has to do with this, the siding will be vinyl or aluminum won't it?
Might one solution be a strip of something, maybe thin aluminum or shaped
thin hardwood sized and formed to fit under the catch and over the lip of
the offending piece?
The siding is usually loosely nailed so it can expand and contract with
changing temperature. Might it be possible to lower the bottom piece by
sliding it down a touch and raise the upper piece a touch and engage the
channels that way?
Finally, I am a real fan of silicone calking as an adhesive. Might you cut a
really small hole in the tip of a tube of silicone calking, get it up under
the edge of the upper piece and apply a dab or two at intervals. If you hold
the lower edge down a bit with a hook then press the bottom hard against the
piece below and allow the hooked edge to rise again might you be able to get
a bit of goo between the lip and the hook above? Pick a calm day so it has a
chance to bond before the wind begins pulling on it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Przybylek
To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Gluing Nylon
Hi,
That's the problem. There is a piece of siding that's not latched to the
piece below it for about half its length. If I move the offending piece up
enough to latch it to the piece below it, then the next piece up will no
longer latch to the one that was moved up. Given this situation, each piece
of siding will need to be moved up until the top of the wall is reached.
This means moving up all the siding on a wall that's about 30 feet wide and
30 high. I don't have the skills to do the job and I'd rather not pay to
have it done if a simple fix on the offending piece is possible. I'm trying
to come up with a fix that would extend the lip on the piece below the
problem piece so that the loose piece will have more lip to latch onto. I'm
sure that's all clear as mud but that's the problem. I think the clip I'm
trying to fabricate will work but I need to get the right materials and a
glue that will bond the material to itself as well as to the existing
siding. A mechanical solution such as screws or pop rivets would work but
there's not enough room and it would cause the siding to buldge in one or
two places. Right now the loose piece is taped in place with silver duct
tape so the wind doesn't blow it around too much. I'll work on the problem
a little longer but if I don't get too far, it'll be time to call in the
professionals. Let everyone know how it goes. This has become personal.
Take care,
Ed Przybylek
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On Behalf Of NLG
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 4:34 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Gluing Nylon
What exactly is wrong with your siding? If it is just coming apart and there
isn't any seperation of the locking channel, it would be easier to get a
unzipping tool to loosen the siding, pull the nails, move them up a fraction
of an inch, and then rezip the siding.
----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Przybylek
To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:02 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Gluing Nylon
Hi Tom,
I'm beginning to think you're right. More and more, it's beginning to look
like a mechanical solution (screws, pop rivets, etc.) will be a better
solution. Any information your technician might provide, though, may still
prove helpful. Thanks.
Take care,
Ed
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On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:35 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Gluing Nylon
Ed,
That's a huge set of specs, I doubt there is anything.
sounds to me like the fix is going to be more trouble than
just replacing the siding, but then I'm not there.
I'll ask.
Tom
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