Bob: This puppy isn't running continuously or anything like that. Every once in a while, it'll run then shut down after a few seconds, which is why I've been assuming it's the flapper. Do you think it's worth changing out the shut-off unit? I can probably do that one myself, but I don't have the skils to take the tank off and reassemble it. If this were the toilet in my basement I'd probably take a shot at doing it if for no other reason than learning how, but it's one that's used by my wife and houseguests which we have pretty frequently. Thanks for any advice. Bill Stephan Kansas Citty MO Email: wstep...@everestkc.net Phone: (816)803-2469
----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Kennedy <inthes...@att.net> Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:51 pm Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > The only 2 things that will make the water run would be the unit > for filling, whether a "flow master" style or the traditional > ballcock float style, and the flapper valve assembly. If you had > a leak before that point, it wouldn't make the toilet run. That > should make you feel a little better. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wstep...@everestkc.net > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 4:29 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > > > Clifford: I hadn't thought about the float saving water until > I read your post, but it makes perfect sense now. I wound up > getting floats on the two supposedly universal flappers I bought > this morning because they don't cost extra, and I can easily > remove them if I need to. After all this, the thing is apparently > not seated right anyway, because it still occasionally runs. Is > there anything else I can do before calling in the professional > turd wrastlers? Should I try changing the shut-off unit? I can't > see that that would make a difference, but then my batting average > on this one is pretty punky anyway. > Thanks for any thoughts. I hope there's not some kind of > damaging leak going on that I don't know about. > > Bill Stephan > Kansas Citty MO > Email: wstep...@everestkc.net > Phone: (816)803-2469 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: clifford <cliff...@tds.net> > Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009 1:30 pm > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > > Dear Dale: > > I had a problem with the arm dropping too low with a tank on > > which I had changed out the original handle and arm. I > discovered > > that the adjustment for the arm was related to the position > you > > have the arm in, when you tighten down the nut to hold it in > > place. In my case, the thread was a left hand thread and it > took > > me a minute to figure out what was going on with the unit. > > When changing out the flapper on the new model commodes, I > > make sure and get one without the float, as that is designed > in > > many to cut down on water usage, and since we do not have a > > shortage of water, since our drought lifted, I prefer the full > > flush, as that prevents blockages much better. > > > > Yours Truly, > > > > Clifford Wilson > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dale Leavens > > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > > > > > > > > Just that I had a similar problem with one of the toilets here > a > > couple of weeks ago. I couldn't really see anything wrong with > the > > flapper but since I had to change out the valve assembly > anyway > > and the flapper was part of that kit I changed the flapper too > and > > the trickle quit. The original flapper was a little stiff and > > there seemed to be some encrustment on it which didn't really > > scrape off so I am guessing it just wasn't forming to the seat > as > > well as the new and now softer flapper. > > > > I ran into another issue though which I can't explain, the > lever > > arm doesn't seem to want to stop descending so it interferes > with > > the fall float. I took a really stiff piece of wire and bent > it to > > 90 degrees and pushed one end of it into the top of the foam > > insulation of the tank so the other sticks out horizontally > and > > restrains the lever arm from dropping below about the > horizontal. > > seems to be working. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: wstep...@everestkc.net > > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:58 AM > > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > > > > Dale, I de-slimed the thing as best I could, but we have hard > > water, and the flapper I'm having trouble with is at least > four > > and a half yhears old, so it's probably time for a new one. > > > > Bill Stephan > > Kansas Citty MO > > Email: wstep...@everestkc.net > > Phone: (816)803-2469 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dale Leavens <dleav...@puc.net> > > Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:56 pm > > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > > > Try adjusting the chain so it pulls the flapper up a little > > > higher. This causes water to tip out of the flapper so it > takes > > a > > > little longer to settle down onto the seat. > > > > > > You might try wiping around the surface of the flapper seat > with > > a > > > rag too. Sometimes it collects slime and such which > interferes > > > with a good seal. Similarly, old rubber on those flappers > > > sometimes gets hard or stiff or otherwise deforms and that > can > > > interfere with the seal. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: wstep...@everestkc.net > > > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:27 PM > > > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Adventures in toiletry > > > > > > > > > Well folks, as the subject line indicates I've been trying > to > > > fix a leaking or running toilet today. So far the lads at > the > > > hardware store, you know, the one that's a mile from my > house on > > > foot and a mile bac, have sold me two flappers, one which I > > broke > > > because the ears wouldn't fit my toilet, and one that fits > so > > > poorly the toilet refills every 30 seconds or so. > > > I'm usually pretty easy to get along with when it comes to > > > people making mistakes, but I was a little unhappy, so > called > > the > > > manager of the place after the second flapper didn't work. I > was > > > explaining my unhappiness to her, and she said she was truly > > sorry > > > but that the place had just been held up at gunpoint and > they > > were > > > dealing with the police and could I come in tomorrow. So > what > > > could I say. > > > > > > Anyway, then I started switching flappers and have two out > of > > > three toilets working, however, when I press the flush > handle, > > the > > > flapper wants to seat itself before the tank empties. Can > some > > of > > > you folks give me some pointers? Do I need to put some kind > of > > > small floats on the chains close to the flappers? The old > one > > that > > > I replaced did have a chunk of cork or something similar on > the > > > chain, but the replacement flappers don't have anything like > > that > > > on the chains that came with them. The flappers are hollow > > rubber > > > if that helps the diagnosis. > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > > > > > Bill Stephan > > > Kansas Citty MO > > > Email: wstep...@everestkc.net > > > Phone: (816)803-2469 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of > virus > > signature database 4540 (20091025) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
