Both my shop and Sue's teddybear cottage are sitting on blocks with the 
bottom of the siding about 12 inches above ground.  We have thought about 
installing 1 by 12 treated boards around them to keep the cold wind from 
infiltrating underneath and taking away heat.  One reservation I have is 
trapping ground moisture under the buildings.  This would be a permanent 
year round installation.  What are the thoughts of all you handy men and 
women?

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lee A. Stone" <se...@mailsent.net>
To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind.


> 7
> we still pak snow on theNorth and West side of the house   after the
> first few snow falls. does great for stopping some drafts.  and for
> the bilco doors we cover them with plastic and pile the shnow on top
> of that. Lee
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 07:30:40PM -0600, William Stephan
> wrote:
>> Yes Dale, very helpful.  The guy at the lumber yard  I talked to was 
>> trying
>> to sell me plastic sheeting like you might cover a window with, so I'm 
>> going
>> to have to do some more research into what we have available here. 
>> Thanks
>> again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
>> [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 17:10
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The Polystyrene we buy usually comes in 2 by 8 sheets with rebate like 
>> edges
>> so that they can overlap. It comes in various thicknesses, usually inch 
>> and
>> a half or two inches. You can cut it with a hand saw or even score it 
>> deeply
>> then snap it but that isn't as nice an edge. for some reason they usually
>> colour it blue to distinguish it from the open cell Styrofoam, this stuff 
>> is
>> a higher insulation value. There is special sealing tape, it is a lot 
>> like
>> the wide packing tape you are probably familiar with, when I bought it it
>> was red I don't know if that is significant.
>>
>> The point is to insulate but also to keep warm air, particularly when you
>> have paid to heat it inside.
>>
>> Now this stuff can be flammable and is best covered if there is any
>> significant risk of exposure to open flame. It can also be helpful for
>> holding it into place. You can run screws through something like particle
>> board and the foam into structure beyond it. I have used wide washers, a
>> couple of inches to hold the heads of screws to hold it into place. A 
>> little
>> glue like liquid nails or even some calking on the structure then press 
>> the
>> foam into it should also work well in your application.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: William Stephan
>> To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
>> yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:14 PM
>> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind.
>>
>> Dale: all good points really. The only reason I was thinking about a
>> temporary set up is that occasionally, the varmint-killing cat leaves us 
>> a
>> little something under the porch until the possums get it. But, of 
>> course,
>> if the foundation were blocked he wouldn't be doing that in any case. The
>> roof itself, according to the manufacturer, is pretty well insolated. 
>> It's
>> about five or six inches thick. If the snow ever meltsz, I'll go see what
>> the lumber yard has in terms of
>>
>> Extruded Polystyrene. Thanks for the eye-opener.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>> yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@
>> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 21:14
>> To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
>> yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind.
>>
>> Is there any good reason why you wouldn't want to block air infiltration 
>> in
>> the summer as well?
>>
>> It would be my inclination to wrap the inside of what ever skirting you 
>> have
>> around the deck foundation with something like extruded polystyrene 
>> sheets
>> and seal them together with the tape sold for that purpose. I would look 
>> for
>> ways of sealing it tightly at the top and bottom, keep any air from 
>> entering
>> or leaving except between the room and under the floor. Unless the dogs 
>> are
>> piddling through the deck or for some other reason you need to air the 
>> area
>> to keep stink down there isn't any good reason to loose heated or cooled 
>> air
>> to the good outdoors and, it is expensive as well.
>>
>> I would consider insulating under the roof as well if there is a 
>> convenient
>> and practical way to do so. You would probably find your heater raised 
>> the
>> temperature 50 or 60 degrees, you might even find you want to turn it off
>> quite a bit.
>>
>> If you feel the need to circulate air through the structure you can 
>> always
>> open the windows and in that way choose when and how much cold you 
>> require.
>>
>> If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: William Stephan
>> To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
>> yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:40 PM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind.
>>
>> All:
>>
>> We have a sort of three-season room on the north side of our house. It
>> faces off into a yard surrounded by privacy fences and a couple garages.
>> The room is sort of unique. It started life as just an open deck. We had 
>> a
>> pre-fabricated aluminum room added shortly after we took up residence 
>> here.
>> This room is all aluminum and glass with two aluminum doors and many 
>> sliding
>> windows. During winter we use this room as a sort of mud room, and it's
>> where we groom our dogs as well. Because of that, when it was 
>> constructed,
>> the deck floor was taken up, and an aluminum screen was put in place, and
>> the deck flooring was then replaced on top of this screen. Our idea was
>> that snow from boots and shovels and dogs, and spillage from our fountain
>> etc. would just drain through the cracks between the decking, an bugs
>> couldn't come through either and that part's worked well for us.
>>
>> We've been having snow here, more snow than anybody's seen in twenty or
>> thirty years. It blows here too, and there's quite a bit of snow piled 
>> and
>> drifted around this three season room. To keep it more or less useable, 
>> we
>> have one of those Sun Twin 5,000 BTU heaters there, and typically, it 
>> keeps
>> the temperature between 20 an 25 degrees above the outdoor temperature.
>> This year though, it's been keeping the room about 30 or 35 degrees above
>> the outside temperature. I imagine a lot of this is because of the snow
>> around the foundation. There are several gaps that allow air to circulate
>> pretty freely under thestructure.
>>
>> So, it might be a good idea to block these gaps, though probably only 
>> during
>> the Winter months.
>>
>> Does anyone know if there might be say, bladders, that I could fill with 
>> a
>> compresser that would form themselves in a way so as to fill gaps ofa few
>> incheshere or ther, and if so, what is the correct term for them?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any input on this.
>>
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