They don't care if you go into the store with an uncleared security tag, just if you leave with one. The system can tell if you're entering or leaving.
I carry 2 keyless entry cards most of the time and am surprised they've never set anything off.f For big companies, the advantage of the card system is that the cards have unique numbers, so when you fire someone you just remove his number from the system and he can't get back in even if he keeps the card. When my institute remodeled our building in 1998, they considered having keyless locks on all doors, but it would have cost millions, so they're just on the outside doors. Each summer I spend a week at Humboldt state university in a dorm they have magnetic cards you put in a slot in the door's lock that then allows the door to open. They have a lot of trouble wit them not working and having to be reprogrammed or replaced, but I don't know if more trouble than keys would be. Tom Fowle On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 06:16:54PM -0400, Lenny McHugh wrote: > One of those key cards caused a very embarrassing moment. Where I use to > work also had them. I had mine in my wallet and went into a department > store. I do not know why it did not trigger their alarm system when I > entered but when leaving all types of alarms went off. A clerk stopped me > until a security officer came. His first question was "are you carrying a > keyless card?" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fowle" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:15 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Keyless Entry Lock? > > > So if the buttons are scrambled, then the sightlings must have to look at > some display to get the scramble each time, thus standing there puzzling > over how to manage that task, giving the bad guys even more time to watch > and see what is being entered. > > Where i work we have key cards you bring near an antenna, > no contact required. but that requires a whole mess of electronics and a > computer to manage it with and cost tens of thousands of bucks > > Since most people are too lazy to take the card from there pocket to > present it to the antenna, you see scientists and doctors doing a little > "but dance" rite there in the street to get in. It's > pretty funny. > > tom Fowle > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 02:41:09PM -0500, [email protected] wrote: > > I work in a secure facility which is currently having its systems updated. > > We used to have key pads at secure points of entry, then the security lads > > figured out that it was possible to isolate the four keys being used by > > the amount of wear on the buttons. So, we're getting scramble pads, where > > the layout of the key pad changes after every use. Needless to say, this > > is not useable for blinks, so I have to have a special access card. So if > > anybody's thinking about key pads, be aware and watch out for the > > scrambled ones. > > > > > > > > Bill Stephan > > Kansas Citty MO > > Email: [email protected] > > Phone: (816)803-2469 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tom Fowle <[email protected]> > > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:59 pm > > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Keyless Entry Lock? > > > I would never consider any electronic device to be as reliable as > > > a simple > > > key and lock. > > > > > > Also as a bat, one must consider howlikely it could be that > > > somebody could > > > watch you enter your pass code without your knowing. > > > > > > And you need a key available somehow if the battery fails. > > > > > > Also would need to check how hard, or accessible, changing the > > > code is to do > > > if someone undesirable gets hold of it. > > > > > > Sounds like making something simple harder to no purpose. > > > > > > Tom Fowle > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:32:42AM -0500, Claudia wrote: > > > > Does anybody know how reliable these things are? > > > > > > > > I've just been researching, and apparently, there are others > > > that recognize your fingerprint? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Brice Mijares > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:02 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Keyless Entry Lock? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They also make these keyless door locks where a key fob is > > > used to unlock > > > > the door. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Michael baldwin" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:40 AM > > > > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Keyless Entry Lock? > > > > > > > > > instead of using a key, you put in a pass code on a key pad > > > located on > > > > > the > > > > > door, and the door unlocks assuming the correct code was put in. > > > > > There is also a key slot, so if the battery dies in the key > > > pad, you can > > > > > still use the key to get in. > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]]> > On Behalf Of Claudia > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:10 AM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Keyless Entry Lock? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I've been hearing commercials lately, about a keyless entry > > > lock?> > What is this, and can anyone describe it for me? > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Claudia > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of > > > virus > > > > > signature > > > > > database 5049 (20100422) __________ > > > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eset. <http://www.eset.com> com > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of > > > virus > > > > > signature database 5046 (20100421) __________ > > > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of > > > virus signature database 5050 (20100422) __________ > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of > > > virus signature database 5049 (20100422) __________ > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of > > > virus signature database 5050 (20100422) __________ > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Send any questions regarding list management to: > [email protected] > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 > Or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ > > Visit the archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following > address for more information: > http://www.jaws-users.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list > just send a blank message to: > [email protected]! 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