Hi Yoav,
Yes that's the correct use case. It avoids double installs, and also allows
already installed apps to apply manifest updates with start_url changes.
And yes ID matching is limited to the same origin. See the processing
algorithm
<https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/philloooo/manifest/pull/988.html#id-member>
.

Google Chat had to do manual migration when they changed start_url
previously, so they mentioned they will use it when the next migration is
needed.

- PHillis

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 9:13 AM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 12:08 AM Phillis Tang <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Contact [email protected], [email protected]
>>
>> Explainer
>> https://github.com/philloooo/pwa-unique-id/blob/main/explainer.md
>>
>
> There's a lot there, so I want to verify I understand what the feature
> does:
> Without an ID, the browser identifies a PWA based on its start_url, and
> hence if that URL changes over time, that can result in e.g. double
> installs.
> With an ID, even if the start_url changes, the browser would be able to
> know that a certain PWA is already installed.
> Is that correct?
> Am I assuming correctly and the ID matching is limited to the same origin?
>
>
>>
>>
>> Specificationhttps://github.com/w3c/manifest/pull/988
>>
>> Design docs
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16kWW_MBrdtKOMud41vobrOXUPqIL5tITWGiBk9UIDEs/edit?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-I3w9uAOGPk96Uqkn00ZVtw
>>
>> Summary
>>
>> Define an optional id field in app manifest that's used to globally
>> identify the web app. If the id is not specified, start_url will be used as
>> the default id.
>>
>>
>> Blink componentBlink
>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink>
>>
>> TAG reviewhttps://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/668
>>
>> TAG review statusIssues addressed
>>
>> Risks
>>
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>
>> Low interoperability & compatibility risks: For browsers that do not
>> implement it yet, a web app that specifies the id field will just be
>> ignored and function as normal. The only behavior difference is the app can
>> update its start_url when it has id specified on Chrome but not on other
>> browsers.
>>
>>
>> Gecko: No signal (
>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/559)
>>
>> WebKit: No signal (
>> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2021-August/031949.html)
>>
>> Web developers: Positive (https://github.com/w3c/manifest/pull/988)
>> manfest spec editors marcoscaceres overall agree to the change.
>>
>
> That's not web developer feedback. Any signals from folks that are likely
> to use this API in production sites?
>
>
>>
>> Draft implementation done in FIrefox
>> https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D126331
>> <https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D126331>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1731940
>>
>> Implemented and shipped on KaiOS
>> https://developer.stage.kaiostech.com/docs/sfp-3.0/01.introduction/overview/#app-manifest
>> https://github.com/kaiostech/gecko-b2g/issues/56#issuecomment-923121049
>>
>> Ergonomics
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Activation
>>
>> The feature will go together with UX changes in devtool to instruct
>> users. A devrel post is published to inform developers about the new
>> feature.
>>
>> https://developer.chrome.com/blog/pwa-manifest-id/
>>
>>
>> Security
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-BaZAhM3eSh9CP8h8Q_OEV4gsZ9aJ46fl2ef5XeSmcg/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>> Debuggability
>>
>> The raw manifest json can be viewed in devtools->Application->Manifest.
>> The computed app id can be viewed in devtools->Application->Identity->
>> Computed App Id
>>
>>
>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>> ?Tentative manual tests are written.
>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/pull/30409>
>>
>> DevTrial instructions
>> https://github.com/philloooo/pwa-unique-id/blob/main/HOWTO.md
>>
>> Flag nameWebAppEnableManifestId
>>
>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>
>> Tracking bughttps://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1182363
>>
>> Launch bughttps://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1182361
>>
>> Estimated milestones
>> DevTrial on desktop 94
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>> https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/6064014410907648
>>
>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to prototype:
>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/hlxPHfg9GRc/m/M1jbEffUBQAJ
>>
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