LGTM1

On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 10:25:06 PM UTC-8 Alan Cutter wrote:

> Friendly ping.
>
> On Thursday, 11 November 2021 at 7:11:49 pm UTC+11 Alan Cutter wrote:
>
>> Request to extend M97 experiment end date to avoid breaking sites while 
>> transitioning to the new launch_handler 
>> <https://github.com/WICG/sw-launch/blob/main/launch_handler.md> API.
>>
>>  - The launch_handler experiment has been approved 
>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/wNOClobsLrs> for 
>> M97-M102 but due to implementation issues will start in M98.
>>
>>  - To allow clients to migrate over to launch_handler 
>> <https://github.com/WICG/sw-launch/blob/main/launch_handler.md> 
>> seamlessly we need to keep the DLC behavior available until existing users 
>> have had a chance to update to M98.
>>
>>  - To cover the February M98 Chrome OS rollout this extension request is 
>> to go up to 2022-03-31 (assuming ~1 month to roll out to a majority of 
>> users).
>>
>>  - To avoid burn-in risk we will remove DLC from M98. This is the same 
>> strategy 
>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/uoTx_cRuL5o/m/6-6E9LzuDQAJ>
>>  
>> that the Digital Goods API experiment took for their v2 migration.
>>
>> Previous experiment timeline 
>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/q6ivDcvAJwQ/m/XTlva-lGBQAJ>:
>>  
>> M90 to M93 Approved extension timeline 
>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/2c4bul4V3GQ>: 
>> M94 to M97 Requested extension timeline: Up to 2022-03-31 but only for 
>> M97 browsers and earlier.
>>
>> On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 4:45:25 pm UTC+10 Yoav Weiss wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:33 PM Jason Chase <cha...@chromium.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 at 14:32, Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LGTM to extend M94-M97
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:12 AM Alan Cutter <alancut...@chromium.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 at 23:46, Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:33 AM Alan Cutter <
>>>>>>> alancut...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Contact emails
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mgi...@chromium.org, alancut...@chromium.org, tbuck...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/sw-launch/blob/master/declarative_link_capturing.md
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> New Web App Manifest member to control what happens when the user 
>>>>>>>> navigates to a page within scope of an installed web app.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This feature introduces the "capture_links" member, an enumeration 
>>>>>>>> allowing the customization of link capturing behaviour, allowing 
>>>>>>>> sites to:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Automatically open a new PWA window when the user clicks a link 
>>>>>>>> to their app.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Have a "single window mode" like mobile apps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blink component
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> UI>Browser>WebAppInstalls 
>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:UI%3EBrowser%3EWebAppInstalls>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Search tags
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> pwa <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:pwa>, link capturing 
>>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:link%20capturing>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TAG review
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/589
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TAG review status
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In progress
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RisksInteroperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very small, since any browser not implementing this will just fall 
>>>>>>>> back to the standard behaviour, which is to navigate to links in a 
>>>>>>>> browser 
>>>>>>>> tab.
>>>>>>>> This member is also forwards compatible as it can accept a list of 
>>>>>>>> behaviours, older browsers will bypass any new ones that are added 
>>>>>>>> later. 
>>>>>>>> Gecko: No signal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Edge: Strong positive, this compliments their efforts for 
>>>>>>>> url_handlers 
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/pwa-url-handler/blob/master/explainer.md>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WebKit: No signal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It may make sense to reach out for signals at some point. 
>>>>>>> https://bit.ly/blink-signals
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will be reaching out for signals on the Launch Handling API instead 
>>>>>> as it develops.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Web developers: No signals
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't you have developers already participating in the OT?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, should have updated this. Strong positive from existing 
>>>>>> clients using DLC, unfortunately I can't point to any public statements 
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reason this experiment is being extended
>>>>>>>> A new API shape, Launch Handling 
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/sw-launch/blob/main/launch_handler.md>, 
>>>>>>>> has evolved from the current spec work on Declarative Link Capturing 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> URL Handlers. Transition doc 
>>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w9qHqVJmZfO07kbiRMd9lDQMW15DeK5o-p-rZyL7twk/edit#>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That seems like a significant change. Would it make sense to send 
>>>>>>> out a separate intent to experiment, to make that part clearer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry it wasn't clear. This extension is not intended for the Launch 
>>>>>> Handling API, that will be a separate experiment request later once it's 
>>>>>> ready. This extension is intended to create an overlap between the DLC 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> LH experiments so existing DLC users can transition over to LH.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This extension is being requested to enable existing uses of the 
>>>>>>>> DLC experiment transition over to the Launch Handling API once it is 
>>>>>>>> ready 
>>>>>>>> for experimentation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we can have different intents, but still converge on the 
>>>>>>> same experiment tokens, to avoid churn for existing users. +Jason 
>>>>>>> Chase <cha...@google.com>, is that actually correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Likely a moot point now, but...
>>>> Assuming you mean different intents = different trials shown in the OT 
>>>> console, it's not possible to use the same tokens. The name used in 
>>>> the tokens has to be unique across trials.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK, thanks! That's useful info (for next time).
>>>  
>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Previous experiment timeline: M90 to M93
>>>>>>>> Requested extension timeline: M94 to M97
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ongoing technical constraints
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, 
>>>>>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not supported on Android, their window model doesn’t make sense for 
>>>>>>>> “new-client”.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5734953453092864
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Intent to prototype: 
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/2ZnA1IrSpS8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Intent to experiment: 
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/q6ivDcvAJwQ/m/XTlva-lGBQAJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> <https://www.chromestatus.com/>.
>>>>>>>>
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