Great suggestion Yoav!
Let's agree to extend the OT for now until M109 (6x MS) and I'll report
back as soon as we've a clearer timeline.
Does that work for other API owners as well?


On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:26 PM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:

> It seems appropriate to keep the Deprecation Trial until we shipped
> alternatives, but I tend to agree with Chris that 10 milestones sounds like
> a lot. Maybe we can renew the Deprecation Trial for 6 milestones (till
> M109), and revisit that once it's close to expiry?
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 12:06:00 PM UTC+2 Arthur Sonzogni wrote:
>
>>
>> Does this metric count sites that have opted into the rOT?  My company
>>> has a web product hosted under dozens of domains that has the rOT
>>> registered for each one of them.  I don't see those domains in the top 156
>>> list (admittedly a quick scan), so I wonder if it is only counting pages
>>> that try to create SAB without any isolation _and_ without the rOT   ?
>>
>>
>> I believe, for privacy reason, websites are only shown after a sufficient
>> feature usage threshold. This metrics do not count directly site that have
>> opted into the rOT. See code location
>> <https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:third_party/blink/renderer/bindings/core/v8/use_counter_callback.cc;l=278?q=V8SharedArrayBufferConstructedWithoutIsolation%20-file:out%20&ss=chromium>.
>> It counts page using SharedArrayBuffer, without being crossOriginIsolated.
>> Only website that have registered for the reverse OT can do this more or
>> less. So, 0.036% is the amount of page that would break without the rOT.
>> However, the rOT users are probably an order of magnitude larger.
>>
>>
>>> Credentialless has helped in some cases, but anonymous iframes is what
>>> we're hoping for to resolve the rest of the flows, but that feature seems
>>> to be a bit stuck and unmoving at the moment from what we can tell.
>>>
>>
>> Happy to hear COEP:credentialless helped for simple third party
>> ressources! For iframes, anonymous iframe
>> <https://github.com/WICG/anonymous-iframe> is moving and will be ready
>> soon. We aim for a M106 OT.
>>
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