LGTM1

This seems like a useful addition, web developer signals look great, and
it's great to have Mozilla on board with this. Please make sure to answer
their questions on the position issue.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 12:27 PM Yutaka Hirano <yhir...@chromium.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 7:23 PM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 12:50:11 PM UTC+2 Yutaka Hirano wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 7:41 PM Yutaka Hirano <yhir...@chromium.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 5:41 PM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:17 AM Yutaka Hirano <yhir...@chromium.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Contact emailsyhir...@chromium.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Explainerhttps://bit.ly/2SVvKbR
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> The explainer seems focused on the H1 Origin Trial use case, which IIUC
>> we decided against.
>> Is there a more up-to-date explainer on what y'all are actually planning
>> to ship?
>>
>
> Oops, sorry again, I thought I updated the URL but apparently I failed to
> do so...
> Here it is.
> https://github.com/yutakahirano/fetch-with-streams/blob/master/streaming-upload.md
>

Thanks! :)

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>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Specificationhttps://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-body-stream
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Design docs
>>>>>> http://bit.ly/3asqra2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fetch upload streaming lets web developers make a fetch with a
>>>>>> ReadableStream body. Fetch provides a generic definition of Request and
>>>>>> Response objects (and other things involved with network requests).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blink componentBlink>Network>FetchAPI
>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3ENetwork%3EFetchAPI>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TAG reviewhttps://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/434
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actual review never really happened :/ Seems worthwhile to at least
>>>>> communicate that to the TAG.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh sorry I somehow chose a wrong URL.
>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/754 is the correct one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TAG review statusIssues open
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TBD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Gecko*: No signal (
>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/207)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This seems like a position request for a different feature. I think
>>>>> you meant https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/663
>>>>>
>>>>
>> Seems like Mozilla are positive on this! (% some questions)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You're right, thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> No signals on the standards-position ticket. Annevk has been active
>>>>>> on the standards discussions. Positive at TPAC 2019 [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *WebKit*: No signal (
>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/24) No signals
>>>>>> on the standards-position ticket. Positive at TPAC 2019 [1]. [1]
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q090ovJ4gd8wSfVtvuoZLMZ51YkiFDsEZ0Jiqi41Iys/edit#heading=h.85gziabhajhg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Web developers*: Positive
>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/1438#issuecomment-1150755587
>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/1438#issuecomment-1167984830
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Security
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Only 'cors' and 'same-origin' requests allow streaming upload. You
>>>>>> can't use streaming upload with 'navigate' and 'no-cors' requests. - This
>>>>>> feature cannot be used with HTTP/1.x. If the server doesn't support 
>>>>>> HTTP/2
>>>>>> or HTTP/3, the request fails. This is for some compatibility concerns. 
>>>>>> See
>>>>>> whatwg/fetch#966 for the past discussions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same as usual fetch()
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>> ?Yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flag name
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracking bug
>>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=688906
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Non-OSS dependencies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the feature depend on any code or APIs outside the Chromium open
>>>>>> source repository and its open-source dependencies to function?
>>>>>> No
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>> OriginTrial desktop last 94
>>>>>> OriginTrial desktop first 85
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any learnings from the Origin Trials?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> None. We had the origin trial to decide whether we want to allow the
>>> feature on HTTP/1.1. Here
>>> <https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/966#issuecomment-586310657> is
>>> our intention at that time.
>>> Because of some technical problems we failed to collect the data and the
>>> partner (gRPC/web) lost their interest in the feature.
>>>
>>> Hence we decided to give up collecting the data. We asked web developers
>>> whether they want to use the feature even if we disable the feature on
>>> HTTP/1.1, and got some positive answers, as shown in
>>> https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/1438#issuecomment-1150755587 and
>>> https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/1438#issuecomment-1167984830.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> OriginTrial Android last 94
>>>>>> OriginTrial Android first 85
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat
>>>>>> or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github
>>>>>> issues in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>>>>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5274139738767360
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to Experiment:
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/l7QI1bsq80Y/m/Z1TJ0nplAQAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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