LGTM3

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 3:07 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> wrote:

> LGTM2
>
> On 9/29/22 12:14 AM, Yoav Weiss wrote:
>
> LGTM1 to relaunch
>
> This looks perfectly reasonable. Thanks for doing everything necessary to
> minimize the damage through what I'm guessing wasn't what one may call a
> "fun experience".
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 9:51 PM Matthew Wolenetz <wolen...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Regarding the scope of the fix involved in this relaunch, it removes
>> visibility of the new handle attribute from the main/Window context (and
>> updates test expectations, accordingly.)
>> While that change alone would fix the regression, it risks potential for
>> unexpected exception in future if that attribute were ever exposed again on
>> the main/Window context.
>> Therefore, both the spec and implementation involved in this relaunch
>> also remove the ability to throw NotSupportedError exception by this
>> attribute's getter.
>>
>> With the net change versus the previous launch being specific to fixing
>> this regression, and with the relaunch CL also including base::Feature
>> guards for the two blink RuntimeEnabled features for MSE-in-Workers, I
>> believe the risk of relaunch causing respin to be small even if some
>> similar scope of regression were found after the feature reached stable.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 12:40 PM Matthew Wolenetz <wolen...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Per previous LGTMs on this, the feature launched in M105:
>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3795560
>>> Unfortunately, both the MSE spec and Chromium implementation for this
>>> feature included logic which regressed some media playback sites, and the
>>> regression was found late after the feature reached stable in M105.
>>> The launch was reverted from 105 (and 106-108 also have had this feature
>>> reverted explicitly back to experimental).
>>>
>>> The regression was due to the MediaSource object's new handle attribute
>>> being:
>>>
>>>    1. Visible on both main/Window and on Dedicated Worker contexts (not
>>>    just the latter), and
>>>    2. Throwing NotSupportedError exception if read from on a context
>>>    (main/Window, in this case) where the implementation does not support 
>>> using
>>>    a MediaSourceHandle for attaching the MediaSource object owned by that
>>>    context.
>>>
>>> The specific MSE spec language involved in this regression (from
>>> https://github.com/w3c/media-source/pull/306):
>>>
>>> "If the implementation does not support creating a handle for this
>>> MediaSource, then throw a NotSupportedError exception and abort these
>>> steps.NOTE Implementations MAY choose to only allow handle creation for
>>> MediaSource objects in a DedicatedWorkerGlobalScope, as a minimum
>>> requirement for enabling attachment of such a MediaSource object to an
>>> HTMLMediaElement."
>>>
>>>
>>> Uncaught by myself nor multiple reviewers (except partially by
>>> cas...@chromium.org, who asked about precedent for throwing exceptions
>>> in attribute getters
>>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3750140/comment/201a43a2_85dfa17f/>),
>>> there was a pre-existing behavior pattern in at least one older version of
>>> a media playback javascript library (video.js) that enumerated all
>>> MediaSource object attributes, including reading from them and obtaining an
>>> unexpected exception on reading this new handle attribute on the
>>> main/Window context.
>>>
>>
> Huh! Might be worthwhile to file an issue on the TAG's design principles
> to warn against making getters throw exceptions or have any other side
> effects for that matter.
>
>
>>
>>> Also uncaught by myself nor reviewers was the lack of "flag-guarding" of
>>> this feature (it only had blink runtime enabled features, not corresponding
>>> base::Features), so the revert in M105 stable of the previous launch
>>> required a binary respin.
>>>
>>
> Maybe our process should strongly-recommend/require adding a base_feature
> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/third_party/blink/renderer/platform/RuntimeEnabledFeatures.md#generate-a-instance-from-a-blink-feature>
>  flag
> for anything that changes the API shape, as it's very hard to predict such
> breakage..
>
>
>>> The MSE spec has been updated to replace this regressing logic
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/media-source/pull/317>, and the corresponding
>>> Chromium implementation update, addition of flag-guards, and relaunch to
>>> stable (in current M108 milestone) is in code-review now
>>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3910706> and
>>> is pending further LGTMs on this thread.
>>>
>>> Please review for relaunch. I expect I'll need 3 LGTMs to proceed with
>>> landing the relaunch CL
>>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3910706>.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 10:59 AM 'Joe Medley' via blink-dev <
>>> blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gang,
>>>>
>>>> NOTE: Requested desktop and Android ship milestone: 105 (The 'edit
>>>>> estimated milestones' link from chromestatus didn't result in such ability
>>>>> to edit, so I'm adding this request explicitly here.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking into this and will report back. Has anyone else noticed
>>>> this problem?
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>> Joe Medley | Technical Writer, Chrome DevRel | jmed...@google.com |
>>>> 816-678-7195 <(816)%20678-7195>
>>>> *If an API's not documented it doesn't exist.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 8:52 AM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LGTM3
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/1/22 8:05 AM, Yoav Weiss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> LGTM2
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 12:40 AM slightlyoff via Chromestatus <
>>>>> admin+slightly...@cr-status.appspotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> LGTM1
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