On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 4:03 AM François Beaufort <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 6:21 PM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 6:14 PM Rick Byers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Seems like a tiny addition to a well supported pattern.  LGTM1 from my
>>> perspective.
>>>
>>> Other comments inline
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 12:02 PM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 5:15 PM 'François Beaufort' via blink-dev <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Contact emails
>>>>>
>>>>> [email protected], [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/issues/274
>>>>>
>>>>> Specification
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://w3c.github.io/mediasession/#dom-mediasessionaction-previousslide
>>>>>
>>>>> https://w3c.github.io/mediasession/#dom-mediasessionaction-nextslide
>>>>>
>>>>> API spec
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes
>>>>>
>>>>> Summary
>>>>>
>>>>> Adds "previousslide" and "nextslide" actions to the existing Media
>>>>> Session API.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blink component
>>>>>
>>>>> Blink>Media>Session
>>>>>
>>>>> Motivation
>>>>>
>>>>> This will enable developers of video conferencing websites to handle
>>>>> these actions from browser UI. For example, if the user puts their slides
>>>>> presentation into a picture-in-picture window, the browser could display
>>>>> buttons for navigating through slides. When the user clicks those, the
>>>>> website handles them through the Media Session API.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neat! :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TAG review
>>>>>
>>>>> This small addition to the Media Session API doesn’t seem to qualify
>>>>> for a TAG review.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that one for video conferencing actions was approved previously
>>>>> at https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/608
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks, that's good to see. The explainer
>>> <https://gist.github.com/steimelchrome/d52f0fb9a0a13c63a3cf2d4134b71682>
>>> linked there was also helpful to me to quickly understand how this is used.
>>>
>>> TAG review status
>>>>>
>>>>> N/A
>>>>>
>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>
>>>>> No DevTools changes are required, treated like any other
>>>>> attribute/enum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Risks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>> It’s low risk as it's a small addition to an existing API that both
>>>>> Gecko and WebKit approve of.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Signals from other implementations (Gecko, WebKit):
>>>>>
>>>>> Gecko: Positive (
>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/pull/284#pullrequestreview-1106405304
>>>>> )
>>>>>
>>>>> WebKit: Positive (
>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/pull/284#issuecomment-1217526791)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you file for official positions? https://bit.ly/blink-signals
>>>>
>>>
>>> Personally I'd be also fine calling this "no signals" - it's a very tiny
>>> addition and Gecko and WebKit already support the general pattern.
>>>
>>> In general I feel like we should have some pattern for making small
>>> tweaks to exposed APIs that doesn't pollute these standards position
>>> repositories with noise. Yoav, WDYT?
>>>
>>
>> I'm fine with calling this "no official signal" while pointing to the PR
>> comments.
>> I was mostly trying to avoid them feeling we're misrepresenting their
>> opinions
>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/bYZK81WxYBo/m/2WGAimSPBAAJ>
>> .
>>
>
>  As suggested, I've updated
> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5090980649238528 with "No signal" for
> both Safari and Firefox.
>

Great, thanks. For others who are curious, Mozilla confirmed
<https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-api-owners-discuss/c/q5C44gYgqyA>
they don't expect position requests for trivial things like this.

Yoav, any other concerns?

Web / Framework developers: Positive - The existence of the popular (100K+
>>>>> users) Remote for Slides extension (
>>>>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/remote-for-slides/pojijacppbhikhkmegdoechbfiiibppi)
>>>>> proves that there is strong user demand for a (remote) slide control
>>>>> feature, up to the point that they would install an extension just for 
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nice signal!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ergonomics:
>>>>>
>>>>> N/A
>>>>>
>>>>> Activation:
>>>>>
>>>>> Web developers will be able to simply set/unset a media session action
>>>>> handler for “Previous Slide” and “Next Slide” to control the visibility of
>>>>> the button in the Picture-in-Picture window. When the action name is not
>>>>> supported, it raises a TypeError which can be caught to detect feature
>>>>> support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/mediasession/setactionhandler.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Will someone be adding the two new actions to this test? You'll probably
>>> want the new ones in a separate test case.
>>>
>>
> We'll be adding two tests indeed. See WIP Chromium CL changes at
> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3835037/19/third_party/blink/web_tests/external/wpt/mediasession/setactionhandler.html
>
>

Figured, thanks.


>
>>> The test is pretty trivial - just makes sure actions can be added,
>>> without verifying that callbacks get invoked. But IMHO I wouldn't
>>> personally see building an automation pipeline for testing the callbacks as
>>> high priority.
>>>
>>> Tracking bug
>>>>>
>>>>> https://crbug.com/1363548
>>>>>
>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>
>>>>> DevTrial on desktop 110
>>>>>
>>>>> DevTrial on Android 110
>>>>>
>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>
>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5090980649238528
>>>>>
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