SGTM, thanks Rouslan! And sorry again for this thread dropping off API
owner radar.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 2:01 PM Rouslan Solomakhin <[email protected]>
wrote:

> The spec changes <https://github.com/w3c/payment-handler/pull/404> have
> landed with the WPTs update coming next. For the WPTs to pass, our code
> needs to change. I will make both code and WPT changes in the same patch.
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 1:02 PM Mike Taylor <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> LGTM3 (with same conditions as Philip)
>>
>> On 12/19/22 12:52 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
>>
>> LGTM2 assuming tests matching the spec land and pass.
>>
>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 18:26 Rick Byers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Shoot, sorry - I think a downside of re-using an existing thread is that
>>> it doesn't show up in our approval tooling as an item needing action from
>>> API owners.
>>>
>>> Thanks for landing the spec change. Are WPT changes now done too?
>>>
>>> LGTM1 to remove, but you need two more. It looks like Chris and Yoav are
>>> now on vacation, but I'll try pinging a couple others.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 10:49 AM Rouslan Solomakhin <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Just to make sure, do we have the approval to ship the removal in M111
>>>> (together with an origin trial to un-remove for 3 milestones)?
>>>>
>>>> Happy Holidays!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Rouslan
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 9:47:44 AM UTC-5 Stephen McGruer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > please update the chromestatus entry to indicate the "shipping"
>>>>> stage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Done, thanks. This also made us realize we hadn't actually published
>>>>> the spec change (!); that is now up for review
>>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/payment-handler/pull/404> and we are working
>>>>> on associated WPT test changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 11:27, Chris Harrelson <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Reusing this thread is fine, but please update the chromestatus entry
>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/feature/5190978431352832> to indicate the
>>>>>> "shipping" stage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 8:02 AM Stephen McGruer <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *TL;DR - we are requesting LGTM x3 to Remove this API in M111.
>>>>>>> Please let us know if we need to send a new Intent thread for that.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As we look at M111 coming up, we realized we made a communication
>>>>>>> error here which we would like to correct. The original post said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > *Estimated milestones*
>>>>>>> > Origin trial: 108
>>>>>>> > Reverse origin trial: 111
>>>>>>> > Removal: 114
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This was a misunderstanding over what Removal meant. We thought
>>>>>>> "Reverse origin trial" implied that the feature would be disabled by
>>>>>>> default in M111, with a reverse-OT to re-enable it if needed, and then
>>>>>>> Removal was when the feature was completely off with no way to 
>>>>>>> re-enable.
>>>>>>> However based on Yoav's comments above, we think API Owners may have
>>>>>>> thought that we were not intending to disable this feature until M114.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So we are explicitly seeking approval to *Remove this API in M111*,
>>>>>>> alongside starting a reverse Origin Trial to guard against developers 
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> caught by surprise. To the best of our knowledge this reverse Origin 
>>>>>>> Trial
>>>>>>> will probably be unnecessary, as all known payment partners using
>>>>>>> PaymentHandler do not utilize these fields, however we are including it 
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> a safe-guard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No developer signed up to the current Origin Trial, unfortunately
>>>>>>> (possibly because there is no impact), so we have no data from that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let us know if we should send a separate Intent to Remove
>>>>>>> thread instead, happy to do so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:00:31 AM UTC-4 Rouslan Solomakhin
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FYI, we are renaming the flag and reversing its meaning to make the
>>>>>>>> Origin Trial framework work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Dev Trial: *chrome://flags/#identity-in-can-make-payment *-
>>>>>>>>    enabled by default. Disabling this flag would remove the fields 
>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>    "canmakepayment" event.
>>>>>>>>    - Origin Trial:
>>>>>>>>    *chrome://flags/#clear-identity-in-can-make-payment* - disabled
>>>>>>>>    by default. Enabling this flag will remove fields from the 
>>>>>>>> "canmakepayment"
>>>>>>>>    event.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This change is necessary because Origin Trials can only enable
>>>>>>>> runtime flags, not disable them. So, a flag must be default-disabled 
>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>> togglable by an Origin Trial. More information is available in Proposal
>>>>>>>> to Fix the CanMakePayment Identity OT
>>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ItfkdtzDfZZfnuWHqwS9XSqexNQLsuN_4M_9PQZjQXE/edit?usp=sharing>.
>>>>>>>> This has also been discussed on blink-reviews-bindings@
>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/u/1/a/chromium.org/g/blink-reviews-bindings/c/MQkhAEiivNs>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are feature-detecting the presence of the fields in the
>>>>>>>> event, the most reliable way is:
>>>>>>>>   if (event.topOrigin) {}
>>>>>>>>   if (event.paymentRequestOrigin) {}
>>>>>>>>   if (evt.methodData && evt.methodData.length > 0) {}
>>>>>>>>   if (evt.modifiers && evt.modifiers.length > 0) {}
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Rouslan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 11:06:03 AM UTC-4 Rouslan
>>>>>>>> Solomakhin wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Chrome is reaching out to the known partners that may be
>>>>>>>>> depending on these fields.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have reached out to the known partners with dev-trial
>>>>>>>>> instructions and received back feedback that this change does not 
>>>>>>>>> affect
>>>>>>>>> their API usage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>>> > Origin trial: 108
>>>>>>>>> > LGTM to run Origin Trial removal 108-110
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> M108 is upon us. We intend to start the origin trial shortly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 12:03:22 PM UTC-4 Yoav Weiss wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LGTM to run Origin Trial removal 108-110
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:27:10 PM UTC+2 Rouslan
>>>>>>>>>> Solomakhin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > So this intent is requesting to run the first OT M108-M110?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > Any deprecation period you have in mind?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good point. We should start by printing a warning message when
>>>>>>>>>>> these fields are accessed for a few milestones. M105--M107 would be 
>>>>>>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>>>>>> Do I need to resend this as an intent to deprecate first?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LGTM to deprecate as well. From my perspective, you could start
>>>>>>>>>> deprecating earlier than 105, assuming we know the timelines we're 
>>>>>>>>>> aiming
>>>>>>>>>> for.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 9:24 AM Yoav Weiss <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So this intent is requesting to run the first OT M108-M110?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any deprecation period you have in mind?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It might be better to send separate intents for the rest when
>>>>>>>>>>>> their milestones get closer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 5:49 PM 'Rouslan Solomakhin' via
>>>>>>>>>>>> blink-dev <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact emails [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specification https://w3c.github.io/payment-handler/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is an early heads up that we intend to remove the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> merchant origin and arbitrary data from the "canmakepayment"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> service worker event of the Payment Handler API. These are the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> event fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be removed:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - topOrigin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - paymentReuqestOrigin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - methodData
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - modifiers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The removal will be happening through the use of an origin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial at first, then a reverse origin trial, and finally removal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blink component Blink>Payments
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPayments>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Motivation The “canmakepayment” service worker event lets the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> merchant know whether the user has a card on file in an installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> service-worker based payment app. It silently passes the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> merchants’ origin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and arbitrary data to the service worker from the payment app 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> origin. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cross-origin communication happens on new PaymentRequest()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> construction in JavaScript, does not require a user gesture, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> show any user interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, we have considered and dismissed the option to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove the “canmakepayment” event entirely and behave as if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it always returns "true", because some payment app partners have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to us that's what they always do. However, the data that we have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> collected
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows that the “canmakepayment” event returns "false" 1% to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6% of the time, depending on the platform.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review status Not applicable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility Only Chrome has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented the Payment Handler API.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chrome is reaching out to the known partners that may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> depending on these fields.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Payment Handler API requires the use of the PaymentRequest
>>>>>>>>>>>>> API. Neither API is available in WebView.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? Yes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:third_party/blink/web_tests/external/wpt/payment-handler/;drc=f539fffb79da2c97b1a06cbca88cc6d5a93ddc77>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flag name PaymentHandlerMerchantIdentity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome? True
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Origin trial: 108
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reverse origin trial: 111
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Removal: 114
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5190978431352832
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
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