Are you planning to ship both the plural and singular APIs or just one of 
the two?

On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 9:26:28 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:

> LGTM2
> On 3/29/23 10:45 AM, Johann Hofmann wrote:
>
> Thanks Yoav! 
>
> One minor note to the group that we successfully renamed the repository 
> and so the explainer and spec can now be found at 
> https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessFor and 
> https://privacycg.github.io/requestStorageAccessFor/, respectively. 
> (apologies to those who hit a 404 on the spec link)
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:39 AM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> LGTM1 
>>
>> I appreciate the reliance on this API on FPS as an internal concept 
>> (equivalent to the reliance of other browsers on entities.json) to 
>> significantly reduce its user friction as well as the risk that other 
>> vendors are concerned with (e.g. reputation concerns).
>>
>> I think we've made significant strides towards eventual interoperability 
>> with this, without compromising on the use cases we care about, and without 
>> unnecessarily burdening users with privacy labour.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 10:35 PM Johann Hofmann <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Contact emails 
>>>
>>> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
>>>
>>> Explainer 
>>>
>>> https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin
>>>
>>> (note that we recently updated the name to remove “origin”, but not yet 
>>> the repository name)
>>>
>>> Specification 
>>>
>>> https://privacycg.github.io/requestStorageAccessForOrigin
>>>
>>> Summary 
>>>
>>> An extension to the Storage Access API that allows a top-level site to 
>>> request access to unpartitioned ("first-party") cookies on behalf of 
>>> embedded sites. Browsers will have discretion to grant or deny access, with 
>>> mechanisms like First-Party Set membership as a potential signal. This 
>>> allows for use of the Storage Access API by top-level sites.
>>>
>>> For now, we intend to ship requestStorageAccessFor without user-facing 
>>> prompts, instead relying on information from First-Party Sets to determine 
>>> which sites should be granted storage access.
>>>
>>> Blink component 
>>>
>>> Blink>StorageAccessAPI 
>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EStorageAccessAPI>
>>>
>>> TAG review 
>>>
>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/808
>>>
>>> TAG review status 
>>>
>>> Pending
>>>
>>> Risks 
>>>
>>> Interoperability and Compatibility 
>>>
>>> Gecko: No signal (
>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/736)
>>>
>>> WebKit: No signal (
>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/125)
>>>
>>> This has been discussed with other browser vendors outside of the 
>>> standards-positions repositories. These browsers ship this functionality as 
>>> a version that is only accessible to internal code (as an 
>>> anti-cross-site-cookie-breakage measure), but haven’t exposed it to 
>>> developers, primarily out of prompt relevance concerns. There have been 
>>> mixed reactions to our proposal, with the primary feedback being on 
>>> reputation 
>>> concerns with potential prompts 
>>> <https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin/issues/29>, 
>>> and a desire to maintain the security benefits from cross-site cookie 
>>> blocking to an even larger extent 
>>> <https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin/issues/30>. 
>>> We intend to work on these concerns in collaboration with other browsers 
>>> (if possible).
>>>
>>> Edge: No public signal. However, we’ve discussed this with Edge and 
>>> they are supportive of this additional API surface and will work on 
>>> enabling it (i.e. providing the prompts or FPS mechanisms to gate it) on 
>>> Edge as well.
>>>
>>> Web developers:
>>>
>>> Positive. There has been developer 
>>> <https://github.com/privacycg/storage-access/issues/107#issuecomment-1330491548>
>>>  
>>> feedback <https://github.com/privacycg/storage-access/issues/53> on SAA 
>>> asking for this or similar functionality, as well as communication with 
>>> partners that are trying out the API to utilize FPS.
>>>
>>> Ergonomics 
>>>
>>> Like requestStorageAccess, this API requires additional work from the 
>>> developer compared to the old state of "passive" cross-site cookie access. 
>>> This is an inherent, intentional property of the design.
>>>
>>> For security reasons, this feature requires developers to use either 
>>> CORS headers (for non-iframe subresources) or requestStorageAccess in 
>>> iframes to be able to access cross-site cookies after a 
>>> requestStorageAccessFor call.
>>>
>>>
>>> WebView application risks 
>>>
>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such 
>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>
>>> No
>>>
>>>
>>> Debuggability 
>>>
>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, 
>>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? 
>>>
>>> No. This will be supported on Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, and 
>>> Android, but will not initially be supported on Android WebView.
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>> ? 
>>>
>>> Yes, https://wpt.fyi/results/top-level-storage-access-api. Note that 
>>> while tests are passing locally in Chrome, they’re not yet showing up on 
>>> wpt.fyi because the feature wasn’t included in the experimental web 
>>> platform features flag.
>>>
>>> Flag name 
>>>
>>> StorageAccessAPIForOriginExtension
>>>
>>> Requires code in //chrome? 
>>>
>>> True, as we’re adding a new permission and integrating with FPS. As 
>>> mentioned in the FPS I2S, Chromium-based browsers should be able to consume 
>>> the list through component updater.
>>>
>>> Estimated milestones 
>>>
>>> Shipping in M113.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anticipated spec changes 
>>>
>>> Some details of this API are still being discussed in the Privacy CG 
>>> <https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin/issues> and 
>>> there may be backwards-incompatible changes in the future. As mentioned 
>>> above, the primary feedback has been on reputation concerns with 
>>> potential prompts 
>>> <https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin/issues/29>, 
>>> and a desire to maintain the security benefits from cross-site cookie 
>>> blocking to an even larger extent 
>>> <https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin/issues/30>.
>>>
>>> We are confident in shipping the API in its current state to better 
>>> understand and iterate on real-world developer needs, and accept the 
>>> responsibility of supporting potential future breaking API changes. Since 
>>> use of the API in Chrome is currently restricted to First-Party Sets, we 
>>> think it allows us to leverage targeted developer outreach to minimize 
>>> compatibility impact.  
>>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status 
>>>
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5122534152863744
>>>
>>> Links to previous Intent discussions 
>>>
>>> Intent to prototype: 
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGg35awh2_aqmFtWgOdo40vYVnWf%2BkEv3o7jxZ8DLbWq0eC3eQ%40mail.gmail.com
>>>
>>>
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