LGTM3

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 4:49 PM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org>
wrote:

> LGTM2
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:30 AM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the design doc! The quote from kleber@ really helped me to
>> understand the use case and developer need. It sounds like this is a small
>> tweak to fenced frame event-level reporting, which is itself a temporary
>> stepping stone on the path to a more private ads ecosystem. AIUI, this does
>> not regress privacy by revealing the event data to more parties, just the
>> event itself (by default).
>>
>> Based on that, LGTM1 to ship.
>> On 10/26/23 11:33 AM, Liam Brady wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Apologies for the confusion. I have a design document written that
>> explains the motivation for this change:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vLifppH8TC86sl4kbam57egttqb4VNwEkVvZdefGIuQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Essentially, if registerAdBeacon() is called for some destination, that
>> destination is going to expect to receive automatic beacons. However, with
>> the current design, the ad frame is able to arbitrarily prevent automatic
>> beacons from reaching certain destinations. We don't think an ad frame
>> should determine if a destination gets automatic beacons, but it should
>> still be allowed to determine if data is attached to the beacon that is
>> sent to destinations.
>>
>> The explainer PR is waiting for final reviews and approval (I'll try to
>> get that taken care of today). The spec PRs have landed. In the future,
>> I'll link commits instead of PRs to avoid any confusion.
>>
>> - Liam
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 7:44 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Liam!
>>>
>>> On 10/20/23 4:37 PM, 'Liam Brady' via blink-dev wrote:
>>>
>>> Contact emails
>>>
>>> shivani...@chromium.org jkar...@chromium.org lbr...@google.com
>>> Explainer(s)
>>>
>>> Send Automatic Beacons To All Registered Destinations
>>>
>>> https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/808
>>>
>>> FWIW, it's a bit challenging to read an explainer as diffs on GitHub and
>>> infer the motivation. For future intents, could you write up the motivation
>>> and use cases for the "updates" elsewhere (gist, comment, inline here), or
>>> just land the PR in the existing explainer? Is there any reason the PR
>>> hasn't landed?
>>>
>>> Attempting to mentally patch the diffs to
>>> https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/Fenced_Frames_Ads_Reporting.md#support-for-attribution-reporting,
>>> it seems like this intent is intended to support attribution reporting. And
>>> it seems like sending a reporting beacon for the "reserved.top_navigation"
>>> event to *all* registered URLs *without* event data is useful. But I
>>> don't really know. :) Can you elaborate, assuming my understanding is
>>> correct?
>>>
>>> (One more note - sending a title like "Fenced Frames - Send Automatic
>>> Beacons To All Registered Destinations" is a lot more clear than
>>> "Functionality Updates")
>>>
>>>
>>> Spec(s)
>>>
>>> Send Automatic Beacons To All Registered Destinations
>>>
>>> (Initial version) https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/pull/122
>>>
>>> (Post-security review updates)
>>> https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/pull/129
>>>
>>> Similarly, is there any reason the spec PRs haven't landed?
>>>
>>>
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> One of the capabilities of fenced frames and URN iframes loaded through
>>> Protected Audience or Shared Storage is being able to send reporting
>>> beacons automatically
>>> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/Fenced_Frames_Ads_Reporting.md#support-for-attribution-reporting>
>>> after a top-level navigation. We would like to modify that functionality:
>>>
>>> Automatic beacons will now send to URLs registered via
>>> registerAdBeacon() on reserved.top_navigation calls, but they will not have
>>> beacon data attached to the request. Previously, only URLs registered via
>>> setReportEventDataForAutomaticBeacons received beacons, and they do have
>>> beacon data attached.
>>>
>>> Note: This chromestatus entry also includes changes to Protected
>>> Audience ad size macros. However, it is small enough that it will be taken
>>> care of in a separate PSA:
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/3JfA8EUBEgQ
>>>
>>> Blink component
>>>
>>> Blink>FencedFrames
>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EFencedFrames>
>>>
>>> TAG reviews and status
>>>
>>> Fenced frames existing TAG review appended with these spec changes
>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/838#issuecomment-1765061770
>>>
>>> Link to Origin Trial feedback summary
>>>
>>> No Origin Trial performed
>>>
>>> Is this feature supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>
>>> Supported on all the above platforms except Android WebView.
>>>
>>> Debuggability
>>>
>>> Additional debugging capabilities are not necessary for these feature
>>> changes.
>>>
>>> Risks
>>>
>>> Compatibility
>>>
>>> There are no compatibility risks, as described below:
>>>
>>> The API shape as exposed to ad frames is not changing. While the
>>> assumptions of which sites receive the beacon after calling
>>> setReportEventDataForAutomaticBeacons() is changing, no code changes will
>>> be required to have existing code work with this new behavior.
>>>
>>> Interoperability
>>>
>>> There are no interoperability risks as no other browsers have decided to
>>> implement these features yet.
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?
>>> Link to test suite results from wpt.fyi.
>>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>> automatic-beacon-no-destination.https.html (test
>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/automatic-beacon-no-destination.https.html>)
>>> (results
>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/automatic-beacon-no-destination.https.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned>
>>> )
>>>
>>> automatic-beacon-no-opt-in.https.html (test
>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/automatic-beacon-no-opt-in.https.html>)
>>> (results
>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/automatic-beacon-no-opt-in.https.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned>
>>> )
>>>
>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5140606359175168
>>>
>>> Links to previous Intent discussions
>>>
>>> Intent to prototype:
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/Ko9UXQYPgUE/m/URRsB-qvAAAJ
>>>
>>>
>>> Intent to experiment:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/y6G3cvKXjlg/m/Lcpmpi_LAgAJ
>>>
>>>
>>> Intent to extend origin trial:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/SD8Ot2gpz4g/m/A9uA-_cGAwAJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/gpmaOi3of_w/m/SyMclFhMAAAJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/CBrV-2DrYFI/m/RTojC6kHAgAJ
>>>
>>>
>>> Intent to ship:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/tpw8wW0VenQ/m/mePLTiHlDQAJ
>>>
>>> Intent to ship for functionality updates:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/2FKlwNZ0J4Q/m/oQmHtp1rAQAJ
>>>
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