Google's Meet team also desires to use JSPI to simulate synchronous GPU->CPU readbacks in C++ code on top of the web's asynchronous primitives.
On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 9:43 AM 'Francis McCabe' via blink-dev < blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote: > In fact, there are several potential partners for evaluating/experimenting > with JSPI: the Google Earth team, Figma, Adobe to name a few. It should be > emphasized that there are no formal agreements in place here; and that the > primary use case for these partners is actually dynamic loading of code > (and other) resources on the main thread. > > On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 7:11:55 AM UTC-8 rby...@chromium.org > wrote: > >> Hi Francis, >> This seems good to experiment with to me. But the key question is who is >> actually going to test it out in production? You mention "no signals" for >> web developer interest. There's not much point in doing the overhead of an >> OT unless we have at least one developer who wants to test out the >> functionality in a production environment. Can you elaborate? >> >> Thanks, >> Rick >> >> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 12:28 PM Francis McCabe <f...@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> Contact emailsf...@chromium.org >>> >>> Explainer >>> https://github.com/WebAssembly/js-promise-integration/blob/main/proposals/js-promise-integration/Overview.md >>> >>> Specification >>> https://github.com/WebAssembly/js-promise-integration/blob/main/proposals/js-promise-integration/Overview.md >>> >>> Summary >>> >>> Stack Switching denotes a technology that allows programs to suspend and >>> resume computation. This is an active area that is part of the WebAssembly >>> standards track. See https://github.com/WebAssembly/stack-switching and >>> https://github.com/WebAssembly/meetings/tree/main/stack. This >>> particular feature refers to the integration between JavaScript Promises >>> and stack switching. This is described in more detail in >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16Us-pyte2-9DECJDfGm5tnUpfngJJOc8jbj54HMqE9Y/edit# >>> >>> >>> Blink componentBlink>JavaScript>WebAssembly >>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EJavaScript%3EWebAssembly> >>> >>> Search tagsstack switching >>> <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:stack%20switching>, Promise >>> <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:Promise>, JSPI >>> <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:JSPI> >>> >>> TAG review >>> >>> TAG review statusPending >>> >>> Risks >>> >>> >>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>> >>> This spec is backed by a standardization effort. We do not plan to ship >>> the JSPI until it has been standardized by the W3C Wasm WG. However, post >>> standardization, we will depend on all browsers implementing the standard. >>> >>> >>> *Gecko*: Positive (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1850627) >>> Mozilla have started their own imlementation >>> >>> *WebKit*: No signal >>> >>> *Web developers*: No signals >>> >>> *Other signals*: >>> >>> WebView application risks >>> >>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such >>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications? >>> >>> >>> >>> Goals for experimentation >>> >>> >>> >>> Ongoing technical constraints >>> >>> None. >>> >>> >>> Debuggability >>> >>> >>> >>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, >>> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?No >>> >>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>> ?No >>> >>> Flag name on chrome://flags >>> >>> Finch feature nameNone >>> >>> Non-finch justificationNone >>> >>> Requires code in //chrome?False >>> >>> Tracking bug >>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/v8/issues/detail?id=12191&q=owner%3Ame&can=2 >>> >>> Estimated milestones >>> OriginTrial desktop last 130 >>> OriginTrial desktop first 122 >>> OriginTrial Android last 130 >>> OriginTrial Android first 122 >>> OriginTrial webView last 130 >>> OriginTrial webView first 122 >>> >>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5674874568704000 >>> >>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to prototype: >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAAdKk6BGFseZ6pBO2qEW_xeovVw1_guVq26rcNM1nWY442Y5Ng%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status >>> <https://chromestatus.com/>. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAE65UWD8e57Bd5x3nr63M3QcdPo6TKom%2BVZT%3DvO2Uo4x6th_kA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAE65UWD8e57Bd5x3nr63M3QcdPo6TKom%2BVZT%3DvO2Uo4x6th_kA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/3b3e2a05-2375-4b68-a2d4-57230e192e62n%40chromium.org > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/3b3e2a05-2375-4b68-a2d4-57230e192e62n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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